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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    What in particular is FF7-ish? I don't know much about it. We do have holy and meteor which wasn't a thing in FF7.
    Heh... Funny you should say that. You do realize the whole plot of FF7 was that Sephiroth was summoning Meteor, which could only be stopped by the spell Holy, right?
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    There is little issue making "Fire" a single-target spell with I, II, III and so on, while Fira/Firaga/Firaja be AoE with increasing effect. I think it was like this in one of the Final Fantasy, but to be honest, I cannot find it so I probably am wrong on that.

    Also, it seems important to note that Fire, Fira and Firaga in some games were both a single-target spell AND an AoE spell, based on what the player wanted, with the AoE dealing less damage per target as a trade-off. That would actually be a fun mechanic here too...Have an AoE stance that you can turn on and your elemental spells become AoE at the cost of damage...Would solve naming issues for one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    There is little issue making "Fire" a single-target spell with I, II, III and so on, while Fira/Firaga/Firaja be AoE with increasing effect. I think it was like this in one of the Final Fantasy, but to be honest, I cannot find it so I probably am wrong on that.

    Also, it seems important to note that Fire, Fira and Firaga in some games were both a single-target spell AND an AoE spell, based on what the player wanted, with the AoE dealing less damage per target as a trade-off. That would actually be a fun mechanic here too...Have an AoE stance that you can turn on and your elemental spells become AoE at the cost of damage...Would solve naming issues for one.
    I know in the very first FF, Fire/Lit/Ice were single target. And Fir2/Lit2/Ice2 and so on were AoE. And I know FFXI had some weird naming going on, with things like Firaga II, which I think is what you're referring to, as I think the -ga spells were AoE, but the regular Fire/Thunder/Blizzard + number were singles.
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    They addressed this years ago. It's I, II, III because it's easier to understand and they're not going to change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    It *is* explained in the lore why we use the numbered system, being decided by the ingame mages as a more efficient naming system.

    EDIT: Someone posted it lol good
    Lore wise is great, but now we're talking about different type of spells all together... I'm not saying get rid of Fire I, Fire III, Fire IV... but making them > Fire I, Fire II, Fire III...

    And make Fire II (which is AOE) something like Firaga and if needed if there was something to replace it it would be Firaga II to help comunicate the AOE nature of the spell.

    That way, there would be less confusion (hopefully) as to why a spell got upgraded (like thunder > thunder III) and you still have thunder II until IV... and because all even powered spells like stone II aren't AOE... then it's not a rule that even level powered spells are AOE. Just shooting for some kind of pattern.
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    This is a matter of personal taste, but I would prefer if instead, we had the proper naming, but rename spells that are functionally different.

    So, for an example, Fire I, III, and IV would be "Fire, Fira, and Firaga." Fire II would be "Inferno" with "Flare" remaining as is. In a similar line, "Thunder, Thundaga" and "Shock, Shockga." Likewise, Blizzard I, III, and IV would be "Blizzard, Blizzara, Blizzaga," with Blizzard II becoming "Cold Snap."

    Edit: I'm also a weirdo though, because I want Unmend and Abyssal Drain to be "Dark" and "Darkga" respectfully.
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    In german they use the endings -ra, -ga, and -ka for 2, 3 and 4.
    But i think the -ra, -ga, -ka fits better, cause in most cases they are not just stronger versions of a spell, but more of spells with other effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    What in particular is FF7-ish? I don't know much about it. We do have holy and meteor which wasn't a thing in FF7.
    Must've not gotten that far in FFVII then cause you can get materia that allows you to cast Meteor and Holy magics.
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    Last edited by Rahsch; 05-23-2017 at 11:18 PM. Reason: Fixing 'quote'
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    Yes please!
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    I think they should change it to a more traditional naming sense.
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