Do you know healer DPS is easier in easier content?

[Faliandra]

because healers participating in savage are generally more skilled...and since it is hard content,they are expected to make use of cleric stance as much as possible.

meanwhile,in DF, you get all sorts of players, many of them not feeling comfortable with cleric stance and hence not using it.


That's actually all there is to it, I'd say.

[SpookyGhost]

An important PSA: Holy and Celestial Opposition both stun. Also SCH has a fairy and only needs to get 3 GCDs off. Also also WHM has Assize.

That said if you don't know how to DPS as a healer I'd rather you just stuck to healing so that everyone doesn't die. Holmgang/Hallowed/Living Dead can only save me once.

[NovaLevossida]

Hopefully they're going to announce tomorrow they're removing cleric stance and just having MND affect spell damage for the healers. It was just an unnecessary toggle that complicated things at best and drove people away from DPSing at worst.

[Skyrior]

Hopefully they're going to announce tomorrow they're removing cleric stance and just having MND affect spell damage for the healers. It was just an unnecessary toggle that complicated things at best and drove people away from DPSing at worst.

Not really. The whole point of Cleric Stance is to force healers to make a decision on whether they can get away with NOT healing for 2 GCDs. It's always a risk to toggle it and I think it should stay. What they should do is make Cleric Stance more robust and not prone to accidentally not triggering due to latency/packet loss. You shouldn't be in danger because the game's netcode accidentally drops the signal to turn off Cleric Stance.

[NovaLevossida]

Not really. The whole point of Cleric Stance is to force healers to make a decision on whether they can get away with NOT healing for 2 GCDs. It's always a risk to toggle it and I think it should stay. What they should do is make Cleric Stance more robust and not prone to accidentally not triggering due to latency/packet loss. You shouldn't be in danger because the game's netcode accidentally drops the signal to turn off Cleric Stance.

Right. An unnecessary toggle to get the same damage you get in other games for free that's only been put in this game to create complexity. Hopefully they're removing it tomorrow.

[HoodRat]

Right. An unnecessary toggle to get the same damage you get in other games for free that's only been put in this game to create complexity. Hopefully they're removing it tomorrow.

In my experience, cleric stance has nothing to do with it. The healers I get have plenty of time to safely use it and they'd rather over heal or do nothing. Even in a12s, the healers have at least 15 seconds of heal free time when I pull, and they almost never dps during that time. It's just like someone on the tank forums said: it's not even a skill gap, it's a participation gap.

[Hamada]

Skyrior thread....
Did you know you do not need tanks? two friends did some 210 cap 60 df and they where tanking more then the tank was, final boss was done without tank due to being pushed off.
Did you know in expert, in between the second and 3rd boss (sloppy guy) can be done without a tank?
Did you know low level dfs more stuff can be done without a tank and easier do so then in salvage?
Ice is cold
boiling water is hot
What is the point of this thread now?
oh right Skyrior thread... maybe he got a girl lalafall mentor healer and felt tricked finding out they where a boy in rl that did not dps.

[Greedalox]

What is the point of this thread now?
oh right Skyrior thread...

To be fair, this thread is less shit posting and more an actual concern over the division of the playerbase. You're just hung up on the poster (Who admittedly is a troll at heart), but his points aren't exactly abstract or foreign. At worst he's guilty of making another Healer DPS thread.

[Keikun]

Healer dps is completely dependent on whether or not your team is willing to AVOID getting killed. If you're still busy keeping them alive then you'll have no time to dps

Most people here thinks that the healer MUST do dps even if the party isnt evading any attacks, its like "i dont care what happens you better keep me alive and at the same time do dps non stop" to help their weak dps.

Ridiculous ideas from noobs trying to be elitists, healer doing dps shouls be totally optional in every situation, it doesnt matter if its a hard content or easy content, after all even in the easiest dungeons theres people being hit by every attack.

[Taika]

Most people here thinks that the healer MUST do dps even if the party isnt evading any attacks, its like "i dont care what happens you better keep me alive and at the same time do dps non stop" to help their weak dps.

Please point out a few of these "most people here" who have argued that healers must DPS in each and every situation when their party members are eating AoEs left and right and are in constant danger of dying any second.