Super-mega-grind

[TonyMontana]

Just watch tv/movies and spam the button.

[ArcheustheWise]

Just watch tv/movies and spam the button.

You know I actually have quite a problem with this...

I mean if we have to "pop" in a movie just to get away from the tedium of grinding a craft, i feel as if the developers have failed.. i mean if it isnt entertaining enough... why do it? It is a game isn't it? Is it not supposed to keep you entertained?

Just my two cents.

[ArcheustheWise]

Good point behind this. FFXIV was said to have a more casual approach compared to FFXI. While early level crafting may look easy enough, once you build your way in you see it progressively gets longer and much more tedious compared to any DoW or DoM. You just can't pour in exp as fast no matter what you do, even if you're using those manuals to boost exp gain rate (and it's not permanent and getting company seals is no easy task atm).

And what else is there to do than sit and spam enter on a random color appearing orb all day?

Exactly. I mean just about an hour ago i used a manual. And it lasted only two of my miner leves. I was like WTF?! It said at the top of the screen 3 hours but apparently its THAT OR certain amount of exp.

And as you said... seals aren't easy to come by.. and really.. id rather not have to grind something else just to get a certificate to grind MORE on my gathering profession (for a VERY limited bonus). Its just not worth it.

Edit: Im starting to get the feeling devs are losing the point in games these days.

[Robert_De_Niro]

Just watch tv/movies and spam the button.

you hoe get your ass back here and stop being a panzy.....


i agree 40-50 with craft leves is prety easy just need a heap load of anima... or waste time chocoboing to and from each camp... thats the only down side to the system, would be even nicer if they made it possible to horde leves for set camp so you can hand in 5 or so at bald knoll rather than 1 here 1 there per set of 4 or so leves it wastes about 10 anima... and about half a hour to 1 hour depending on how fast you pump it out for 20k+ its not to bad.

grinding the old way with teh new recipes doesnt look nice at all for certian parts of the 0-50 lvling.

[Fieros]

i agree 40-50 with craft leves is prety easy just need a heap load of anima... or waste time chocoboing to and from each camp... thats the only down side to the system, would be even nicer if they made it possible to horde leves for set camp so you can hand in 5 or so at bald knoll rather than 1 here 1 there per set of 4 or so leves it wastes about 10 anima... and about half a hour to 1 hour depending on how fast you pump it out for 20k+ its not to bad.

The hoarding system is great in that it allows you to plow through tons of leves at once basically turning them into repeatable quests from other MMORPGs. The thing about repeatable quests that it lacks is the convienience of the quest NPC being on location.

Instead of accepting what amounts to delivery quests from Ul'dah to turn a pile of materials into something Camp Horizon needs, the pile of junk should be at the camp already. Interacting with the crystal or NPC at Camp Horizon would then allow you to repeat the leve indefinately saving the step of traveling back and forth to Ul'dah every time. The same can be done with battlecraft and fieldcraft leves.

If I want to spend my 50 leve quests grinding pugilist in Nawana Mines I should be able to do so without the time-consuming step of travelling back and forth every 3 quests.

With the new system allowing focused leve-usage and becoming what amounts to the equivilant of repeatable quests in every other MMORPG the next step remains to add the convienience of this repeatable mechanic by removing travel and allowing on-location acceptance of leves.

[Robert_De_Niro]

The hoarding system is great in that it allows you to plow through tons of leves at once basically turning them into repeatable quests from other MMORPGs. The thing about repeatable quests that it lacks is the convienience of the quest NPC being on location.

Instead of accepting what amounts to delivery quests from Ul'dah to turn a pile of materials into something Camp Horizon needs, the pile of junk should be at the camp already. Interacting with the crystal or NPC at Camp Horizon would then allow you to repeat the leve indefinately saving the step of traveling back and forth to Ul'dah every time. The same can be done with battlecraft and fieldcraft leves.

If I want to spend my 50 leve quests grinding pugilist in Nawana Mines I should be able to do so without the time-consuming step of travelling back and forth every 3 quests.

With the new system allowing focused leve-usage and becoming what amounts to the equivilant of repeatable quests in every other MMORPG the next step remains to add the convienience of this repeatable mechanic by removing travel and allowing on-location acceptance of leves.

this would be totally awsome.... yet also very lazy in another way and SE do like to add time sinks the current system is totally a time sink .... i do how ever like how you worded it its what i was thinking kinda but lacked the words ;p