Everyone really hates me for not be the best player

[Faliandra]

Guys...he has gotten several encouraging posts in at least 2 or 3 OTHER THREADS, even before this one!

I tried to give advice too....and my advice was completely ignored as well. That's why I stopped.
When you check his response, its always the same "come report me so ill get banned because ill never be as good as you".

It's like a record that got stuck and keeps repeating itself over and over.

Tbf, that's how depression can work. You can block out all the positive and only see the negative.

Troll or not. This isnt a typical behavior of a depressed person.
There are many mental illnesses that are accompanied by depressions, and this may be the case here...
(in which case the depression wont be the cause of this acting we can see here).

But a person suffering from depressions isnt gonna act like this, in public, in front of people they dont even know,
repeating the same damn thing over and over again. Maybe they'd speak up somewhere, maybe reach out,
but they'd just leave quietly if people were mean to them. Everyone is different ofc, but no, from various
experiences I refuse to believe that this associated to depressions. I suffer from depression and I have
seen many people suffering from the same and none of them acted even remotely close to this.



Bottom Line: let this thread die and stop giving him/her more attention. I repeat once again: check the posting history of said person.
He/she deleted many of her posts, but you should still see the actual threads that were posted in where several people tried to help.
This is a lost case, troll or not.
Please also keep in mind that we can't help someone who's not wanting to be helped. And if said person indeed suffers from
some kind of mental illness and refuses to acknowledge it, there is even less we can do.

Save your energy and time for someone who actually appreciates it...

[Mature]

Remember that ALL the people or the BIG majority of the FFXIV community are copy & paste of YouTube or Online guides.

Sadly this game FORCES you to learn fast or you will fall behind. People will never go blind unless the raid / primal hasn't been cleared or done.

So when they say to you that you aren't very good always remember that they started the same way no matter how 'pro" they pretend to be. (Specially those who are obsessed with FFlogs , who are another copy&paste of online guides)

[SpiritMuse]

But a person suffering from depressions isnt gonna act like this, in public, in front of people they dont even know, repeating the same damn thing over and over again.

I've actually seen exactly this before. On another forum that I used to frequent, there was this 13 year old who was very depressed. She kept going on, every time someone even remotely disagreed with her, about how we all hated her and she was sorry that she was so horrible and more of that kind of stuff. It wasn't true, of course, no one hated her, but she's 13 with no perspective on things. Eventually, though, her continued insistence that we should hate her started wearing on everyone else and she ended up creating a self fulfilling prophecy - by constantly insisting how we should feel about her, she actually got us to like her less and less over time. Until finally she left the forum (mostly because she had lost her interest in the forum's subject, though).

We didn't want to dislike her, she was very sweet most of the time, but we just couldn't deal with constantly having to argue with her that, no, we still didn't hate her. It was sad, really. I hope she's doing better these days.

[YitharV2]

Please also keep in mind that we can't help someone who's not wanting to be helped. And if said person indeed suffers from
some kind of mental illness and refuses to acknowledge it, there is even less we can do.

Yeah, I've been burned more than once so I understand that sometimes you can't help people. They need to help themselves. But even so, I think at my core I want to do what I can to help. It's probably why I enjoy support roles like healing and tanking.

[Faliandra]

I've actually seen exactly this before. On another forum that I used to frequent, there was this 13 year old who was very depressed. She kept going on, every time someone even remotely disagreed with her, about how we all hated her and she was sorry that she was so horrible and more of that kind of stuff. It wasn't true, of course, no one hated her, but she's 13 with no perspective on things. Eventually, though, her continued insistence that we should hate her started wearing on everyone else and she ended up creating a self fulfilling prophecy - by constantly insisting how we should feel about her, she actually got us to like her less and less over time. Until finally she left the forum (mostly because she had lost her interest in the forum's subject, though).

We didn't want to dislike her, she was very sweet most of the time, but we just couldn't deal with constantly having to argue with her that, no, we still didn't hate her. It was sad, really. I hope she's doing better these days.

with all due respect, all i get from this story is "there was a 13year old acting the same way" without youactually knowing whether it was depression or not.
It's probably just something you assumed.

Depression accompanies many other mental illnesses, as a side effect. But depressions on their own do not cause
this kind of behaviour pattern.

Yeah, I've been burned more than once so I understand that sometimes you can't help people. They need to help themselves. But even so, I think at my core I want to do what I can to help. It's probably why I enjoy support roles like healing and tanking.

the point is that several people tried to give input to help, and EVERYTHING has been ignored. Hence why I'm still not fully convinced its not a troll/attention seeker.
And if youre gonna put effort and energy into helping someone....at least put it to good use on someone who wants to be helped.

Again, take it from someone who knows first-hand what its like.

[Ama_Hamada]

I give up, I can't tell if this a person with legitimate issues or a troll. I do not know how you can spin this amount of helpful posts into negative.

Why i should play as tank when i'm not a good tank, in fact i'm really bad as tank when i keep losing aggro if i don't spam AoE that increase aggro every 1-2 combos and what comes to DPS compared to other DPS in any content i'm really bad on using every skill effectively like let's say for example as bard i always forget using Raging Strikes and Hawk's Eye skills and sometimes i forget do dots too.

Also why i need get "friends" when i don't have any friends who play FFXIV and i really don't like be friend of random players.

Are you for real? How ... can someone make a reply like this to what I said? I am baffled. I... am speechless, literally. How do I respond to this?

OP is in full ilvl 270 hence nobody takes him/her serious when asking for help. The community might be toxic on some servers more than others, but still not the majority, we do need to keep that in mind.

wait what? I had to look.. how can someone get a 275 relic as it requires to clear stuff.. and isn't some of the stuff harder then Alexander - The Cuff of the Son????????

[YitharV2]

the point is that several people tried to give input to help, and EVERYTHING has been ignored. Hence why I'm still not fully convinced its not a troll/attention seeker.
And if youre gonna put effort and energy into helping someone....at least put it to good use on someone who wants to be helped.

Again, take it from someone who knows first-hand what its like.

Yeah, I know first-hand as well, so I'm not disagreeing with your point. I once tried to help someone make the right decisions, but in the end, they just did what they wanted, and made stupid decisions.

[Skyrior]

Why i need getting help when I'M NOT F##KING MENTALLY ILL.
So only reason why you said that i'm a "mentally ill" (when i'm not) is becuase you just want me get even more hate in forums and in-game.

Please don't use the F-word. It's really rude.

[DreamAngel-Ren]

I already quit playing FFXIV when people like you want me stop playing FFXIV.
Also i already said i'm always try my best but when you guys just keep talking about how bad i'm and that i should stop playing FFXIV.

Not everyone is a villain, buddy. Remember that.

I told you that you HAVE THE OPTION - THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE to quit if trying is so hard for you. Mostly I was really hoping that you can try harder, but since you've already thrown in the towel, there's no point in that. I was only trying to toughen you up, but that didn't work >.>

My advice to you is don't let others influence your decision making and do learn to give people chances because with your attitude, people will never help you. It's sad, but it's the truth.

Good day to you.

[YitharV2]

wait what? I had to look.. how can someone get a 275 relic as it requires to clear stuff.. and isn't some of the stuff harder then Alexander - The Cuff of the Son????????

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._weapon_guide/

1. FATEs
2. Mostly HW story dungeons
3. Beast tokens, Hunts, Lore, Poetics
4. Lore
5. Lore and Blue Scrips/Amber/Materia/etc
6. Lore, Leveling Roulette
7. HW FATEs, HW dungeons, etc.
8. ARR Trials + HW Trials

The only hard part I see is really the HW Trials but I'm fairly certain it's possible to be carried through them. At this point though, I wonder if we are getting trolled though.