Transfer Restrictions and Roleplayers

[Misake]

Everyone complaining in this thread is ridiculous. They did this for HW and just didn't tell you and no one batted an eye. Now they tell you this time and everyone freaks out. The servers will reopen a few weeks after launch. Chill the hell out.

[MomomiMomi]

Look, if you want everyone to go onto a single server, that's fine. But if you do that, you're going to have to deal with the consequences. The consequences of the actions the players themselves took.

So yes, this is the fault of the players. Players like you.

[Velynea]

Look, if you want everyone to go onto a single server, that's fine. But if you do that, you're going to have to deal with the consequences. The consequences of the actions the players themselves took.

So yes, this is the fault of the players. Players like you.

Of course it is. Fault of the community. Fault of people who desire to join their friends. Not that of the people running the game who should have came up with more graceful solutions. I don't get this absurd whiteknighting and trying to proclaim Square Enix has no blame in it. They are running this game. They have the end responsibility.

As far as I know neither I, or other roleplayers, are on the board of directors over at Square Enix's office.

[savageink]

And you are entitled to have that opinion. By all means, continue to make yourself look like an abhorrent, uninformed dolt with zero sympathy towards people who happen to enjoy another aspect of a game.

Darn those raiders as well on Gilgamesh. Shouldn't have transferred there to play with their friends. They knew how full it was after all! Gosh, lets just ignore those people who have a desire to play with their friends. They should just start over on a new server, problem solved? Right? - Did that perhaps make it easier for you to understand our situation, of are you continue to stay that dense?



Laughable from someone who does not appear to wish to understand, despite several roleplayers having tried to explain our situation. Alas, intelligence is a rare trait to be found in some people.

Yadda yadda...lets try again.
Too many people make server break. Adding more people make server break more. Do nothing server not work good. Expansion coming server screwed...

Is everybody friends with everybody on the server? No, no I doubt it. Squeenix IS doing what they can. They are telling you that this situation is untenable. You now have to deal with it. Saying you will do absolutely nothing and complaining about it when everybody has known for years there were too many people going in to those servers and you had to go to extraordinary measures to get around the restrictions imposed is definitely your community's fault...and I suppose the raiders too. The rest is martyrdom plain and simple.

[MomomiMomi]

Of course it is. Fault of the community. Fault of people who desire to join their friends. Not that of the people running the game who should have came up with more graceful solutions. I don't get this absurd whiteknighting and trying to proclaim Square Enix has no blame in it. They are running this game. They have the end responsibility.

As far as I know neither I, or other roleplayers, are on the board of directors over at Square Enix's office.

I didn't say they have no blame. I said that you are to blame. You for doing it and them for allowing it to be done.

At least some people in the RP community realize it.

Balmung's predicament is, essentially, a problem at least partially of the RP community's own making. And I think it's one we should - and can - work together to equally partially solve

A quote from someone from the RP forum, from a Balmungian. So you can disagree with me all you want. But don't do it because I'm not part of Balmung's RP community.

[Misake]

If you complain about it and refuse to transfer off with your friends, you have no room to complain. Period. Play on high pop servers, win high pop prizes. Move if its such a first world problem that you're gonna be locked out for an indeterminate amount of time. Which, by the way, will shorten if people leave.

[Hasrat]

Gosh, lets just ignore those people who have a desire to play with their friends. They should just start over on a new server, problem solved? Right?

I mean... which is the priority here? Playing with a friend, or playing on a mega server? Honestly why would starting over on a server with a friend who is also starting fresh be a bad thing? You literally get to run the whole game together.

Idunno about you, but I wouldn't tell my friends "Hey come play this with me. But also have extra cash so we can play together. No I won't pay you back, just pay for the transfer so I don't have to make an alt."

[Velynea]

I didn't say they have no blame. I said that you are to blame. You for doing it and them for allowing it to be done.

So I am to blame for those servers being locked. Well. I shall go directly punish myself for this with a few hard lashes on my back, and hope the Twelve and the community of all those people will forgive me.

The only thing I see here are poor attempt of guilt tripping people into expressing the enjoy their community and hate to shut (new) people out from it. Quite abhorrent, truly. Just because we have our seats warm does not mean we should be snobbish and go by an attitude of 'tough luck' of those people wishing to join Balmung.

I'd welcome another roleplay server. Many do. But once more, choice is what I want for people. Not a force to one server or the other. But alas, that flies past people's ears as well.

I mean... which is the priority here? Playing with a friend, or playing on a mega server? Honestly why would starting over on a server with a friend who is also starting fresh be a bad thing? You literally get to run the whole game together.

Idunno about you, but I wouldn't tell my friends "Hey come play this with me. But also have extra cash so we can play together. No I won't pay you back, just pay for the transfer so I don't have to make an alt."

Roleplayers are extremely different. We like a lot of options in terms of people we get to interact with. It's vital to our community.There's plenty of posts on how and what we are not like the communities you are used to. On page 6 and 7 you can find better explanations I've given. I invite you to look over those and if you have any questions, feel free to ask them.

I would just suggest my friend to seek out another MMO at this point. At least until Balmung unlocks. I'd play other games with them though! But most of my online friends these days are on Balmung. They also don't want to leave. I'd rather not leave the majority of my friends and many feel the same.

[Keridwyn]

I feel for the RP community, I really do. It's a nifty pastime and I get why you'd want to stick together and foster a server RP atmosphere. The problem is ever server has limits and you folks have hit yours. Should SE have made a dedicated RP server from the outset, absolutely. However, I know for a fact RP isn't exclusive to Balmung, those other folks are working hard to build communities and attract people. They even have a good chance of succeeding now that Balmung isn't going to suck new roleplayers in thanks to it's sheer mass size. With the upcoming changes to server transfers and added benefits, you folks should start petitioning for one of the worlds receiving all those benefits to be designated the official 'RP' server. Now would be the time to do it (considering they're adding new EU servers). Moving would suck but wouldn't the benefits be worth it in this case?

[Oaken]

Of course it is. Fault of the community. Fault of people who desire to join their friends. Not that of the people running the game who should have came up with more graceful solutions. I don't get this absurd whiteknighting and trying to proclaim Square Enix has no blame in it. They are running this game. They have the end responsibility.

As far as I know neither I, or other roleplayers, are on the board of directors over at Square Enix's office.

Thank you (again) for your well reasoned posts, and I agree with them completely.

Unfortunately, the majority of the PVE community does not understand (or care) about the intricacies of the RP community, and no one will be able to convince them to do anything other than eat out of SE's silver spoon. They blissfully consume whatever is given and forget that they are consumers who ultimately hold the power. As such, they cannot see other potentialities, ignore problems impacting others, are oblivious to long-term risks to the health of the game, and fail to consider reasonable alternatives. So long as they can devour PVE content with small groups of like-minded friends, they do not care about things like community, creativity, or user-created content. It is pointless to try to convince them otherwise.

MMORPGS are social games. We should be encouraging SE to consolidate server populations onto as few severs as possible and devote sufficient resources to alleviate technical issues with those servers. Artificial barriers - like server selection - should not divide communities and limit the game play experience. If a person is unable to understand this extremely simple concept, I apologize and feel great sympathy for that person.