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[Lambdafish]

Return to Ivalice and there's no connection?

Literally no connection between the raid and adding a new race. I never said viera weren't from Ivalice . Your post implied that going to Ivalice meant that we were getting an Ivalice race, which has been disproven A) through common sense (why would it have anything to do with 5.0 races?), and B) by demonstrating that the raid will be based on FFT lore, which doesn't feature Viera.

[Nestama]

Apparently, anything that can even imply Viera (those other Ivalice races don't exist, apparently) = race confirmed. Sky Pirates in Shadows of Mhach storyline? Well obviously Balthier and Fran are going to appear, since they're sky pirates! Fran is a Viera, therefore, Viera confirmed for 4.0!

2.2 Through the Maelstrom artwork has a character with ears unlike Miqo'te? Viera confirmed for 3.0!

Miqo'te in Instagram artwork has a tail unavailable in FFXIV. Viera confirmed!

[Ghastly]

A. You don't know what common sense means. Common sense means that returning to a world where viera exist makes it more possible than not that they will appear at some point. And B. Viera exist in FF A and A2. Yoshida's not going to talk about FFT Advance or A2 because those are gameboy releases. It's like when you talk about a famous movie, you don't tell people to watch the second sequel, you tell them to watch the original but that doesn't mean the rest of the series isn't a part of a new project or reference in a new project. The only reason viera don't exist in FFT is because Matsuno hadn't created them in his head yet. He's the creator. Something cannot exist before it was created.

The difference between your argument and mine is that you say there's no connection (without proving your point) while I claim that there's a chance that there's a connection since viera do exist in Ivalice (proving my argument unlike you).

You're trying to speak for Yoshida while I'm not. Saying FFT is logical, it's the origin of the series but not the end.

[Lambdafish]

B. Viera exist in FF A and A2. Yoshida's not going to talk about FFT Advance or A2 because those are gameboy releases.

Not sure how much of A and A2 you have played, but they are different Ivalices from the one in FFT. I'm not saying that your statement is incorrect, but my statement is that the raids existance has no bearing on Viera being in the game, because Ivalice =/= Viera, Viera are a small part of some Ivalice games, and when doing crossover content like this, the themes and references are far more important than literally importing character models (excluding enemies and bosses). Sure, fran and balthier could be in the game, but they are just as likely to be miqote and hyur as viera and hume, and thats even with the miniscule chance of them appearing (given that the raid is based on FFT, we are more likely to see Ramza and co, then again I still hold my personal speculation that it is an ascian themed raid)

[Rysir]

Honestly I want viera added as a beast tribe to shut down the viera discussion permanently. The desperation and overzealous claims are getting kinda nuts now because really! The first stage of desperation was saying Yugiri pre face reveal was a viera when clearly she was not and now we are getting a "VIERA CONFIRMED" from a raid?

Its one thing to want a new race but to reach so hard for it even after confirmation of no new race? It just aint healthy getting your blood pressure up over something like this. I dont think its even healthy discussion anymore, you all gotta calm down.

[347SPECTRE]

Viera are the Illuminati of FFXIV (Excluding the goblin group of course)

[Jadub2k]

This is a fire that just won't burn out lol As much as I would LOVE to see Viera added to the game. I've said before, do we really NEED to add another race to the game. Because again we 6 races, each with 2 clans each that make nada, zero, zilch, nothing at all (except for skin tone) difference with Hyur's being the only real exception to this. I personally would add some actual context (or at least try to) with some racial/clan differences to the current 6 1st before adding a 7th that will only turly benefit roleplayers. Because if you sit back and think about it, roleplayers benefit the most from this game currently.

As I stated in the begining of my post, I am all for adding and would love viera as a PC race to XIV . And not adding when the concept art was revealed was a BIG missed opportunity because reactions were Huge (not to mention a single race for an MMO getting gaming website coverage), BUT! Looking at the bigger picture, what would adding them bring to the game except more skintone, static battle animations (every race/gender uses the exact same battle animations, sooo static lol), and another benefit to roleplayers? If there added for story reasons, then.. I guessss I'll be ok with that. But I know one thing that if for some reason one IS seen during the raid this fire is gonna burn uncontrolably, but also knowing that the creator of FFXII is also working on the raid is already fuel for this.. (And to answer the question, I believe Hydaelyn was/is the crossover link between worlds. I think its in the Lore somewhere.)

[Ghastly]

They knew what they were doing when they brought Matsuno to make Return to Ivalice. If they really wanted viera supporters to forget about it they wouldn't have done this. To make it even clearer they even went and ahead and told us that stormblood's raids will be more closely linked to the main scenario this time unlike mhach/alexander. So that tells you that the events of Return to ivalice will be something with real consequence.

Yoshida makes it clear, Return to ivalice won't just be a reference like crystal tower, so speculation of the raid adding viera is something he left open by adding this raid in the first place

NY: It’s definitely not an homage. It also depends on how the players will interpret it when they’ll actually enter the raid. In terms of the world of Ivalice, and whether or not it is connected to the realm of Final Fantasy XIV, it’s still a mystery, and that’s something that you will have to enjoy while playing the scenario.

http://www.dualshockers.com/final-fa...ments-paladin/

[Esper]

Someday..... someday... ❤️

[Lambdafish]

If they really wanted Viera supporters to forget about it, they wouldn't have done this.

Got it, this raid has been made specifically with Viera supporters in mind. Ivalice =/= Viera, if Ivalice is more connected to Eorzea than we think, then that's fine (to a point, I don't want Eorzea to be written into the Ivalice alliance). The problem with your argument is that it is directly influenced by your want, it assumes that just because you want it then that influences the purpose of this content, and without that the raid has had no reputable sources that would connect the raid and Viera, and it would simply be a FFT raid. Your argument isn't even an argument for that reason, it is a non-sequitur.

As Nestama said, every time something in XIV even hints at referencing the Ivalice alliance (a normal thing to do considering how XIV is built) then all we get is "Viera confirmed" from a vocal minority, and frankly it gets tiring to hear (as evidenced by many people who reply to this thread). We can let the dev team use Ivalice the way they want without making it all about Viera because there is so much more to the franchise than that.