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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    It's when they're yelled and screamed at, called names and vilified for not wanting to DPS
    I've only had someone complain at me once for (apparently) not DPSing as a healer, but it was in Qarn Normal (level 35-37), but I think he was just upset at me because I corrected him about something that he tried to tell the tank to do and was trolling because I actually did DPS as much as possible during that run lol

    I've never seen others get harassed in any content so far for not DPSing as a healer....I mean I do play healer a lot myself and I do DPS on healer so I maybe haven't had opportunity I suppose?

    Since I have no personal experience to base off of I was wondering how often you, or others in this thread, have come across healers being yelled/screamed at or called names for not DPSing?
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Since I have no personal experience to base off of I was wondering how often you, or others in this thread, have come across healers being yelled/screamed at or called names for not DPSing?
    You obviously have not been around the forums much lol. It's all over on the forums, even in the healing section.

    I main white mage and I am constantly DPSing and such, so I rarely get targeted by such. I'm also on a Japanese server where that sort of stuff isn't quite as commonplace. However, I did start off on Balmung and have seen some of it dished out to healers as I was leveling other jobs. I usually defend new healers, unless they are doing something terribly wrong, but I have seen some healers do the opposite too-- too much DPS and not enough healing.

    Maybe yelled and screamed at is a little exaggerating as well, but people still are demeaning and put them down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    You obviously have not been around the forums much lol. It's all over on the forums, even in the healing section.
    No...I have been, but reading every post that happens in the forums is a bit hard on the eyes :/ not to mention the forums is not the whole community so while you might get stories here and there about healers being harassed it doesn't show really how often it occurs...

    Which is why I wanted to ask how often you, or others in here, have seen it happen. I see tons of healers in-game who don't DPS at all and no one seems to ever bother them so I need to get info from others how many times they've seen a healer harassed for not DPSing because my tally is like 1 time out of around 5000 instances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    because my tally is like 1 time out of around 5000 instances.
    Yep, I've been booted from a savage raid once ever, depressingly it was A9S of all places, they actually cited my misses (Inflated due to my habit of meleeing where I can) since I was maintaining dots and doing a reasonable job of it given the circumstances. However, given that our best attempt was 2% at over 7 minutes with 4 deaths, my personal DPS most certainly wasn't the issue here. It was just easy ammo for the the static to rage over and mask their failings. By asking to switch from WHM to AST to solve my MP woes with the slow clear I suspect I simply put my head above the parapets at a bad time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    I need to get info from others how many times they've seen a healer harassed for not DPSing because my tally is like 1 time out of around 5000 instances.
    Never happened with me. Never harassed or seen someone harassing a healer for not dpsing in normal dungeon or trials.

    The idea of healers and tank dps came from endgame. At minimum item level, Savage required massive dps check which needed both tank and healers to participate in dps.
    There aren't any dps checks in normal dungeon or trials. Healer and tank dps in this situation only helps to speed run content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    No...I have been, but reading every post that happens in the forums is a bit hard on the eyes :/ not to mention the forums is not the whole community so while you might get stories here and there about healers being harassed it doesn't show really how often it occurs...
    Well there have been some threads regarding parsers and raid dps and such where healers are trash talked (raid and dungeon content) along with dps chars and that. And yeah, I know that the forums aren't representative of the in game player base, but you have to understand posts on places like youtube, reddit, 4chan, the forums here and that where people go for information might discourage players from being healers or contribute to players in game saying things to them. Being healers, ourselves, it's hard for us to see that first hand since you don't have many healers other than ourselves in content.

    The only reason I bring it up is because it is a factor, small or large as it may be, and this thread is about how to get more people to play healers. I have limited knowledge these days of NA server happenings besides what I see on the forums and on the few FFXIV players on twitch/youtube I watch.
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