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  1. #31
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    B takes center, and A either goes left or clockwise 120* and C right or counter-clockwise 120*...)
    that's some weird logic. if B is North for example, you're saying
    A goes left (West) or clockwise (which is basically right and East)
    C goes right(East) or counter-clockwise (which is basically left and West)

    if that's the common logic its no wonder so many people still get it wrong...

    not that it matters anyway but by design A should be centre, and B left and C right. last boss of void ark for example when echidna splits into 3 she'll always be north and target A's Tank the snake on her left targets B's tank and the snake on her right targets c's tank. the way people typically do it you end up seeing all 3 dance around and switch places which means it takes longer for them to split up.. (every second counts in this age of must go fast speed run all the things) doesn't really matter but ya know just a small gripe...
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    Last edited by Dzian; 05-13-2017 at 06:44 PM.

  2. #32
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    not that it matters anyway but by design A should be centre, and B left and C right.
    Afaik, that's the way the mechanics are designed for 24man raids.

    However, it does make sense to follow Shurrikhan's reasoning. What they mean is essentially placing the letters in alphabetical order from west -> north -> east, which makes sense imo. For the other way though A being north makes sense, but B and C being west and east makes far less sense.
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  3. #33
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuleofThree View Post
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    The place markers are in use for contents, where 1 or all of each group have to stand at a specific place in a specific moment or a wipe is coming. Example: Cloud of Darkness (where 3 areas get closed and the objects in those areas have to get destroyed fast) and Ozma (right meteor placing)

    Nobody need markers in Zombie Dragon fight, because the plates are already like markers (pull the skeletons to the last plates).
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-14-2017 at 01:03 AM.

  4. #34
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    SinisterJoints's Avatar
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    Lunafreya Valentine
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    for me I hate them because sometimes i cant see people

    but I dont take them down either.. so
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  5. #35
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    Ar'telan Qin
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    I see it a lot on Echidna... I had someone erase my markers repeatedly because I needed to "learn my alphabet". I put A in the middle because they get echidna and it keeps the snakes far apart.

    Also that was the only time I saw a wipe... because in the confusion the tanks decided to put the snakes close together... bear in mind I came to void ark in like 3.2 and it was already old, and this happened in like 3.4. It was embarrassing, but not for me.

    If you don't like em, ignore em. It's not hard.
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  6. #36
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    snip
    It wouldn't be ideal for a fight that has auto-targeting adds like Echidna, but otherwise it's just the idea of reading A, B, C, from left to right across your screen. Whether common "logic" or not, it's what I see 98% of the time (the only exception being, again, Echidna). B can be south or north, or whatever, depending on where the raid is facing at entry to the boss; it's just "center". It's just the idea that the middle letter goes middle and the other two fan out to the sides, whether that's requires an angular shift as well or not. They then spread and collapse as mechanics and cross-healing require (the latter never really occurring unless an alliance has lost their healers).

    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    The way he stated is how it's done on the Japanese servers. It's quite logical considering that's how the parties are arranged when you first come into the content.
    Having played on Ragnorak, Cactuar, Balmung, and Tonberry, I've actually never seen anything else. I haven't see anything else in Youtube footage of these 24-mans either, apart from Echidna. In 8-mans that require coordination, A may be the first placed, and then B and C around it, but in everything else I've only ever seen left-to-right / read-order placement.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 05-14-2017 at 06:05 PM.

  7. #37
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    I personally don't mind the letters. Sure there's some content I ran at least a million times, but that doesn't mean others have done the same, and there have been occasions were markers could have prevented a wipe, if placed right from the start and not after everybody died 3 times and we needed to find replacement. Some people are very impatient and they can't wait the 2 seconds it takes to place the markers, yet this are the first people that try to ignore everything because it's old content, even tho some mechanics in specific fights/instances can't be skipped, no matter how hard you're trying.
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  8. #38
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    that's some weird logic.
    The way he stated is how it's done on the Japanese servers. It's quite logical considering that's how the parties are arranged when you first come into the content.
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