Just call it what it really is. Expert Coin Toss


Just call it what it really is. Expert Coin Toss



It's been a coin flip ever since HW launched. I really don't know why they decided to stick with that and just rotate dungeons out instead of actually adding new dungeons to it.


But if you do all the dailies, do PvP, help other people with dungeons.. What's the issue? There are many activities that award Lore and I end up capped by latest Saturday by just playing the game after I come home from work. Where did the idea that you have to farm these two dungeons in particular come from?


That's how it worked in ARR too though. The newest dungeon tier (there 3 of them) was expert roulette, and the earlier expert dungeons were cumulatively added to high roulette, when new tier arrived. It was exactly the same, except now there's only been 2 dungeons per tier.
If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.


You're right - and folks complained mightily about it in ARR, as well. Because it was terrible. A selection of only three dungeons for the best Roulette? And then came Heavensward, and it got even WORSE, with just two dungeons.
Seriously, I hope that with the next expansion, SE puts more dungeons into Expert. It should include, at the very least, the new dungeons plus the previous set of dungeons - possibly even the previous TWO sets. Yeah, a selection of six dungeons in Expert Roulette would do a lot to reduce the monotony.


The best roulette should have best reward, no? However the dungeons of the previous tier have both, lower item level drops, as well as lower amount of tomes from the dungeon itself. When I run ex roulette, I'd feel shorted if I got any of the lower ones. The lower roulette is there for that, run that for variation. Just let the ex runners get the latest gear and best amount of tomes.
If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.



HmmSeriously, I hope that with the next expansion, SE puts more dungeons into Expert. It should include, at the very least, the new dungeons plus the previous set of dungeons - possibly even the previous TWO sets. Yeah, a selection of six dungeons in Expert Roulette would do a lot to reduce the monotony.
expert rolette:
50 tomes reward
+100 tomes bonus reward if you get one of the newest dungeons of the patch.
Or do you think the older dungeons should give the same reward as the newest?


It's frankly laughable to assume that the majority, or even a lot of players are there for the gear. Dungeon gear is added to the game ALREADY OBSOLETE. Even those few players who CAN use the gear, would benefit much more from the greater tomestone rewards than they would from the higher level gear - and if they really do need that higher level gear, they can always queue up for the dungeon outside of Roulette to get it.The best roulette should have best reward, no? However the dungeons of the previous tier have both, lower item level drops, as well as lower amount of tomes from the dungeon itself. When I run ex roulette, I'd feel shorted if I got any of the lower ones. The lower roulette is there for that, run that for variation. Just let the ex runners get the latest gear and best amount of tomes.
No one should be farming the top level dungeon for equipment, unless they want that equipment for glamour, or to trade in for Grand Company points, or for an alt job - and in all of these cases, you're better off selecting the dungeon specifically rather than using Roulette, even under the current system.
Yes. Because the newer dungeons do not present any additional difficulty compared to the older, so presenting similar rewards is perfectly in line. In fact, calling it "Expert Roulette" is already widely acknowledged as a joke - there's nothing "Expert" about any of them.
In the interests of greater variety, the previous set of dungeons (or even the previous two sets) should be part of the highest-rewarding Roulette.



i stop using Expert Roulette and doing Soul of Creator/dun scaith/60 Roulette/Trial for farming 900 weekly limit
doing the same 2 dungeons everyday get bored very quick

I cap scriptures just by doing pvp 10 scriptures per match, 90 match every week and dont complain.
i know many endgame raiders cap really fast farming the current raid savage tier, 30 scripture per clear
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