Suggestion as to how to get people to become healers.

[Capriana]

Remove the need to cleric stance.

Have the damage scale of MIND similar to how tanks got the VIT buff.
And before you argue the healers will become OP, I doubt it, because their main job is still healing and the only possible candidate for OP is SCH, I think. And they have pets to micro manage so things are already tough for them. Plus others don't really have strong damage dealing spells except holy and gravity and they can think of something to balance them.

God knows I, my self, dread playing my SCH because of stance dancing. Remove that and I will play the bazoonka out of my SCH and possibly have it become my main.

This is an argument and I would love to hear arguments against as to why this would not be a good thing or how they could manage it so the healer does not become OP.

[Nyxn607]

If they removed the cleric stance and added in your suggestion, I would like to think it would get rid of the issue in the community about healer DPS. More healers would dps if they didn't have to stance dance and risk letting someone die in the mean time.

Just my opinion on the matter.

[Capriana]

If they removed the cleric stance and added in your suggestion, I would like to think it would get rid of the issue in the community about healer DPS. More healers would dps if they didn't have to stance dance and risk letting someone die in the mean time.

Just my opinion on the matter.

Exactly my point, I would definitely play my SCH. Beause at the current state, if I don't stance dance, I feel awkward and feels inadequate at my role. If I do stance dance and DPS then it feels too much for me to handle ... I get burnt out after a few rounds. But with my WAR or SMN I can go hours on and feel GREAAAAAT.

[Zojha]

More healers would dps if they didn't have to stance dance and risk letting someone die in the mean time.

Mhm... no. The constant arguments on the matter have made it abundantly clear that healers who refuse to DPS already are not just insecure but do so on principle because "If I wanted to DPS, I'd play a DPS".

The insecure ones typically start to DPS after a couple runs, because they get familiar with the damage the content is putting out.

As for the suggestion: I'd say yes, but then we should also give all DPS healing spells that are as good as the DPS spells of a healer. That's just fairness. And if you're concerned about watering down the trinity: Remove all DPS spells from healers entirely. If you're going to water it down, you should water it down fairly.

[MisterLucie]

As for the suggestion: I'd say yes, but then we should also give all DPS healing spells that are as good as the DPS spells of a healer. That's just fairness. And if you're concerned about watering down the trinity: Remove all DPS spells from healers entirely. If you're going to water it down, you should water it down fairly.

Healers wouldn't have anywhere near the damage capabilities of an actual DPS with this suggestion. However, I do agree that DPS should be given some more reliable forms of moderate self sustain. The options they currently have may as well not even exist.

[OpheliaHeartilly]

...we should also give all DPS healing spells that are as good as the DPS spells of a healer. That's just fairness.

"Fairness" isn't giving everyone the same thing. That would be very unfair to be quite frank. Fairness is determined by giving ppl what they deserve or need. Healers need damage spells for virtually all content in this game. DPS do not need an excess of healing spells because during solo content their damage output (when rotations are done correctly) is high enough that they are in no real danger of dying. In group content, the healers take care of them.

[Atlaworks]

"Fairness" isn't giving everyone the same thing. That would be very unfair to be quite frank. Fairness is determined by giving ppl what they deserve or need. Healers need damage spells for virtually all content in this game. DPS do not need an excess of healing spells because during solo content their damage output (when rotations are done correctly) is high enough that they are in no real danger of dying. In group content, the healers take care of them.

So it's "Fairness" to make a healer as capable at damage output as a DPS, with the ability to take care of(other, now)DPS in group content? Get out.

[OpheliaHeartilly]

So it's "Fairness" to make a healer as capable at damage output as a bad DPS, with the ability to take care of(other, now)DPS in group content? Get out.

Fixed that for you.

[Nyxn607]

I would personally enjoy if the developers made the content in such a way to make it just hard enough that healer's wouldn't be able to DPS at all. I am rather annoyed with all of healer dps/cleric stance threads at this point.

In my personal opinion, if you don't like how someone else plays, stop playing MMO's. Not everyone is going to play the way YOU want them to. YOU do not own/control the MMO. In contrast, if you are going to get butt hurt any time someone suggests another way to go about playing your class, again you should stop playing MMO's.

Now I will sit back and watch people get butt hurt over this comment.
/grabs popcorn.

[Sebazy]

if you are going to get butt hurt any time someone suggests another way to go about playing your class, again you should stop playing MMO's.

Or better still, accept that it's a big wide world and that not everyone is going to share the same viewpoint

A valuable lesson for life this <3