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  1. #9281
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyScarlett View Post
    You absolutely can help it. Don't cast regen at the end of a pull, or if it doesn't have enough time to tick down. That's just as much of a waste as when it's cast before the tank even pulls.
    Or just right click it off if you're the tank.
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  2. #9282
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    ViolaCrossfire's Avatar
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    Viola Crossfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyScarlett View Post
    You absolutely can help it. Don't cast regen at the end of a pull, or if it doesn't have enough time to tick down. That's just as much of a waste as when it's cast before the tank even pulls.
    Well whenever it happens I just start sprint-hugging the tank just in case he forgets to cancel it in 20 seconds of time. That way he can range-pull into AOE like normal with only the healer getting the first hit of the other thrash. I can understand how other healers could lack that foresight but there is always something either the healer or the tank can do in that situation. Regen right before pull remains a giant waste however, you can still hug the tank if you forget about it but it's a lot less excusable. My AST friend kept doing it to me when I was tanking and most of the time it's just a bad habit they picked up that they need to unlearn.
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  3. #9283
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Sagittarius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Or just right click it off if you're the tank.
    Not that easy to notice if you are more worried about pulling the next pack.
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  4. #9284
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Or just right click it off if you're the tank.
    Not easy to do if you play on console or with a controller.


    In other news, A9S farming for some accessories. BLM doesn't know how to dodge Scrapline (each time) and dies. Also doesn't know to not stand in the fire (each time), and eventually the heals stop raising him. No, he wasn't a bonus.

    WHM spamming Holy too much on the adds. So much so that I have to play Ballad for them. That was the only thing they did, by the way. Didn't do much healing outside of Asylum bubble. Barely keep a HoT on the MT. Holy is fine and dandy and all, but why do so many WHM insist on spamming it until OOM, and then cry to the BRD when they're out of MP?

    I stayed number 2 after the DRG in terms of DPS. The NIN didn't even die and would barely pull 1400 DPS. And of course they rolled on the freaking Aiming Necklace I was after, AND WON. > So I had to buy it when I would have rather saved my books for my other jobs... sigh. Today has just been a rough day, and I was probably super salty in there compared to my usual patient demeanor... but today was just not a good day, and I wanted to get some farming done, and people were just being terrible and I couldn't today....

    To the WAR who I was with: I'm sorry I didn't notice your pacification. Even without macros (which I'm so used to running with my two WAR friends who have macros for it), I usually am on top of Paeon-ing pacified WARs. I was just...today was an off-day. Not a very good day, and I was just looking to lose myself in doing something so I didn't have to think about today. So I was zoning out more than I should have been, and for that, I apologize. I also apologize if I came off as bitchy with my macro comment. Wasn't my intention.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 05-07-2017 at 08:42 PM.

  5. #9285
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    DaikiKiyoshi's Avatar
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    Daiki Kiyoshi
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RubyScarlett View Post
    You absolutely can help it. Don't cast regen at the end of a pull, or if it doesn't have enough time to tick down. That's just as much of a waste as when it's cast before the tank even pulls.

    I cast regen before a pull all the time and it helps because my tank uses their aoe enmity skill on the mobs right away and it keeps them up longer which gives me time to set up to spam holy. Maybe the tanks you play with are just bad?
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  6. #9286
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    I cast regen before a pull all the time and it helps because my tank uses their aoe enmity skill on the mobs right away and it keeps them up longer which gives me time to set up to spam holy. Maybe the tanks you play with are just bad?
    To be fair, it's not good practice to continuously cast HoTs on a tank or the party pre-pull because it's just unnecessary enmity gain on you. And this is Duty Finder we're talking about, so you can't have high expectations for every tank or party member you come across. Some may be able to snag aggro right back before the mobs boop you, but others may not be so swift in doing so. It's just best to not precast regens at all, in my opinion. I get annoyed when healers do it on me because it's just unnecessary; I won't die in the 5 seconds it takes for me to secure my aggro on mobs, so they can just wait that 5 seconds, Regen, and then enter Clerics and start DPSing away. I can always snag hate back when I'm on my DRK, but I shouldn't have to chase mobs down because healers decide to precast their regens or medica IIs on everyone.
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  7. #9287
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I understand that A1S is basically faceroll, and I understand that we are trying to cram as many runs as possible into our sturdy bonus window. However, you still kinda need to heal your MT. I shouldn't have to use Living Dead on Faust because I'm not getting heals and my health is now 2,000 or below. >.> I shouldn't have to Living Dead at all in there.
    Don't you just love that? Same thing happened to me the other night. Good group overall, but the healer kept ignoring me. It's like... "I need some healing[/i]. ;-;"

    Speaking of which! Wound up healing with you yesterday in A12N. Pls be my co-healer again sometime <3
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  8. #9288
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Not that easy to notice if you are more worried about pulling the next pack.
    Practice situational awareness. It's an important skill for a tank especially.
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  9. #9289
    Player
    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Don't you just love that? Same thing happened to me the other night. Good group overall, but the healer kept ignoring me. It's like... "I need some healing[/i]. ;-;"
    I know right?! I died three times in the group I was referring to in my post. Each time because of lack of heals. We had an AST and a WHM, and neither could bother to give me at least a HoT. Or a shield even!!! ;-; I was like "...do they think DRKs can self-heal like WARs can because we totally cannot ;_;"

    Speaking of which! Wound up healing with you yesterday in A12N. Pls be my co-healer again sometime <3
    OMG. I THOUGHT YOUR NAME LOOKED FAMILIAR. I was thinking "Where have I seen this name before...it's so freaking familiar...where?!" It was bugging me all night. XD

    It was a pleasure healing with you!! Hopefully we'll bump into one another again! <3
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  10. #9290
    Player
    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Practice situational awareness. It's an important skill for a tank especially.
    But I already really good at that, I don't have any problem tracking my own buffs/HP/MP/TP, what the boss/mobs is doing, where are the other players and their special needs (if melee like monks) and predicting routes to the best use of my AoE enmity skills during pulls.
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