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  1. #81
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    Millen1's Avatar
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    Xiao Ming
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    Brynhildr
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    Yeah, no. This is dumb on many levels. As a crafter, I put in a massive amount of work in to gathering the mats and craft those in HW. It was not easy with the weekly cap and devalues the hard work those of us that made those sets put in. Second, when in dungeon I would like it if my party actually looked like their job they are playing. I don't really want to chase after a tank dressed as a fisher or some crap like that.
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  2. #82
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Millen1 View Post
    Yeah, no. This is dumb on many levels. As a crafter, I put in a massive amount of work in to gathering the mats and craft those in HW. It was not easy with the weekly cap and devalues the hard work those of us that made those sets put in. Second, when in dungeon I would like it if my party actually looked like their job they are playing. I don't really want to chase after a tank dressed as a fisher or some crap like that.
    They should add those items, but not sell them via cash shop, instead only crafters who learned the recipe can make them. Players who are crafters and gatherers will be rewarded for via sales and those that dont have crafters or gathers can buy the glamour and use it for themselves.

    Its a WIN/WIN.
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  3. #83
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Millen1 View Post
    Yeah, no. This is dumb on many levels. As a crafter, I put in a massive amount of work in to gathering the mats and craft those in HW. It was not easy with the weekly cap and devalues the hard work those of us that made those sets put in.
    That's how the game is. Right now, the amount of work it takes to gather the mats for the DoH/L specific i170 sets (which is the same model used as the i200 sets) is probably less than 1/10th of the effort it took when those sets were added to the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Millen1 View Post
    Second, when in dungeon I would like it if my party actually looked like their job they are playing. I don't really want to chase after a tank dressed as a fisher or some crap like that.
    Then you'd have to disable a lot of the glamour options. A fisher wouldn't exactly stand out, since tanks wearing bikini glamours are a thing.
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  4. #84
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    Enur's Avatar
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    Ruruneji Seseneji
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    The only kind of limitations i would want to see on gear is the job-specific gear. Everything else should be opened up.

    Casters should get non specific plate tanks get non specific robes.

    We can already wear the lvling gear for DoH/DoL on all battle classes so i dont see why this gear should be excempted from the rule.
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  5. #85
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Sagittarius
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    The only kind of limitations i would want to see on gear is the job-specific gear. Everything else should be opened up.

    Casters should get non specific plate tanks get non specific robes.

    We can already wear the lvling gear for DoH/DoL on all battle classes so i dont see why this gear should be excempted from the rule.
    It's job specific gear.
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  6. #86
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    Ruruneji Seseneji
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    It's job specific gear.
    Last i checked a miner wasnt a mystical exclusive art from the mountains. Just a guy with a pickaxe.
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  7. #87
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    Last i checked a miner wasnt a mystical exclusive art from the mountains. Just a guy with a pickaxe.
    It's a ingame restriction to keep some flavor because at the end of the day gear is just gear, anyone can wear it (even if you use it wrong).
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    Last edited by Driavna; 05-06-2017 at 09:31 PM.

  8. #88
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    They should add those items, but not sell them via cash shop, instead only crafters who learned the recipe can make them. Players who are crafters and gatherers will be rewarded for via sales scripts and those that dont have crafters or gathers can buy the glamour and use it level up a crafter and gatherer and buy it with scripts for themselves.

    Its a WIN/WIN.
    fixed it a bit

    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    Last i checked a miner wasnt a mystical exclusive art from the mountains. Just a guy with a pickaxe.
    Then a WHM is also just a guy with a healer staff in the hand. I demand WHM AF3 gear as "all class" gear. /s

    In a game, where the weapon decide the class, someone with a pickaxe in the hand is a miner and nothing else at that moment.
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-06-2017 at 10:24 PM.

  9. #89
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    Ruruneji Seseneji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    fixed it a bit


    Then a WHM is also just a guy with a healer staff in the hand. I demand WHM AF3 gear as "all class" gear. /s
    No if all you got is the staff you'd be a conjurer. White mage requires the training and job stone something the DoH and DoL's lack. There is not much iconic about an apron compared to a white robe with the red accents. The job gear is funnily enough locked to jobs not classes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    In a game, where the weapon decide the class, someone with a pickaxe in the hand is a miner and nothing else at that moment.
    In this game if you just equip the tool you are the base class, something everyone can be and learn. Yes i am aware of specialists but those functioned more as a gating mechanic to ensure that one player couldnt ace in all crafts at the same time.
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  10. #90
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Sagittarius
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Most jobs can be learned by almost anyone (PLD or MCH are a good example of this), in fact some story arcs revolve around train average joes (MNK). WOL is at the peak, but the job itself is not something special.
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