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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    Considering they've said before that it would be for a limited amount of content (only certain hand picked dungeons), I don't think it'll do much other than maybe flushing out some dungeons that people might either be sick of in their roulettes or just outright leaving the moment they pop up. Hopefully Aurum Vale is among one of the chosen dungeons you can use them in.
    Wonder if they can bind this within the "live" system, like if they could make it so if the group starts to fall apart if you can bring in your squadron / chocobos, at least for old content. Steps of Faith, everyone leaves and you're sick of it, and you decide to stay with that one other cool dude who also hates life as much as you do, fill the rest of the slots with NPCs and do the content (at least until it fills them with players).

    Have it sort of act like in HotS where when a player leaves it gives you an AI team member, better than nothing (usually), and you don't rage quit the whole content lol.

    Another being you start a DF for steps of faith and the program running the show just starts dying laughing because you're the only person in queue and the history shows no one has queued for it for a while. Instead of continuing to roll on the floor it just says "would you like to continue in advance with your squadron?" and will continue to search while you attempt the content (of course don't let the squadron take place of players if the AI isn't ready for the content, that'd be a waste of the player's time).

    Some people may want to /only/ run with their squad, and there may be reason to if SE made it so that's how they learned.. but I still think if they could bind it into the live system that it would barely touch the amount of players in the system while also accelerating queues for content that is dead or no one likes lol.

    Would be sort of funny if they hang/back/cheerleader you when they get replaced (can see them pressing their faces against the magical wall before boss fights, staring deeply ).

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Hah I would image no 8 man content but Im wondering how far it will go could you do like the level 50 roulette, 60 roulette with them. Im just curious as to if you can do things like this with them, cause I mean for instance if I wana play a dps job and its either hey que in with people wait for 20 or 30 mins.

    OR my other option is now que in with my squadron I personally would chose the squad every time over waiting for 20 mins. I think if they allow this they have to be real careful in what types of content they will allow us to run with them, because with our long on going thread about df issues I dont see why people wouldn't chose the npcs instead thats if they where worth anything they could suck haha.
    Lol I doubt they would let you replace players like that yeah, maybe for old 8 man content (Coil for example). I doubt we'll see people fully abandon the live system but it wouldn't hurt I think to intertwine them. It also depends onw hat doing the dungeon means with them though, like what has SE prepared as the reward? Big pile of seals? We'll have to see what the encouragement/purpose is. If the purpose is to replace real players in dead/low level content I don't think we'll really see the problem (since a lot of Deep Dungeons and no new content). Really depends at the moment what they want for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Wonder if they can bind this within the "live" system, like if they could make it so if the group starts to fall apart if you can bring in your squadron / chocobos, at least for old content. Steps of Faith, everyone leaves and you're sick of it, and you decide to stay with that one other cool dude who also hates life as much as you do, fill the rest of the .
    If we could get them in old eight man like coil or something it would def kill alot of the bird or pony farms u see in the pf at least the pony ones if they are that good to do coil even uysnc. If you could do old primals and stuff with them that would kill alot of the parties farming them or even new players farming you would get a certain drop if you could bring in your npcs.Ha but just from doing job quest my npcs have always seemed to be pretty decent and in some cases while leveling alot stronger than your character at the time.

    But I just dont see how they could make them that great tho, I honestly dont see how npcs could go past say hakku manor if so they would have to of spent loads of money to do this. Like someone mention av no way the npcs would know to eat fruit ha, are qarn haha npc gona get the heads on the platform. The more I think about it unless they spent loads of money on this feature I couldnt see them being able to go past brayflax ha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    If we could get them in old eight man like coil or something it would def kill alot of the bird or pony farms u see in the pf at least the pony ones if they are that good to do coil even uysnc. If you could do old primals and stuff with them that would kill alot of the parties farming them or even new players farming you would get a certain drop if you could bring in your npcs.Ha but just from doing job quest my npcs have always seemed to be pretty decent and in some cases while leveling alot stronger than your character at the time.

    But I just dont see how they could make them that great tho, I honestly dont see how npcs could go past say hakku manor if so they would have to of spent loads of money to do this. Like someone mention av no way the npcs would know to eat fruit ha, are qarn haha npc gona get the heads on the platform. The more I think about it unless they spent loads of money on this feature I couldnt see them being able to go past brayflax ha.
    For the ARR farms I don't think it's an issue, maybe also for HW - why I say this is because you will be so overgeared from SB that ARR primals will be a real joke, and if you want to make a farm party with someone else that's fine but you could totally do it solo. For the current tier I don't think they would be allowed or capable of doing it lol.

    (So imo, I don't really care if they allowed you to easily bird farm by yourself, because honestly if you hit 70 you could easily farm by yourself anyways).

    I believe they will add custom scripts for specific dungeons, which depending on how much they care will either be modified mechanics or more complicated AI algorithms to follow the dungeon rules. The much easier of course is just to have the squadron not respect the dungeon mechanics like you have to, like Egi sort of already do. I definitely think they can make them work past Aurum Vale even, but they will likely do it by cheating lol.

    Your ally is going to have like 75% damage reduction
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Wonder if they can bind this within the "live" system, like if they could make it so if the group starts to fall apart if you can bring in your squadron / chocobos, at least for old content. Steps of Faith, everyone leaves and you're sick of it, and you decide to stay with that one other cool dude who also hates life as much as you do, fill the rest of the slots with NPCs and do the content (at least until it fills them with players).
    That would be nice to just be able to continue on. The more likely scenario is it will be a specific choice of going into a dungeon with your squad from the beginning or going in with regular players and if someone drops you get to wait for more players.
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