[Spoiler] Support Papalymo for 4.0!

[stanrir]

well if thats the case we should bring back Yda too and get rid of this Lice that has taken her place!

[Belhi]

well if thats the case we should bring back Yda too and get rid of this Lice that has taken her place!

We never knew Yda. Even 1.0 players only would have seen the real Yda in echo visions. To the WoL the Yda they have always known has been Lyse. Same character. It is just a name change and she decided to stop wearing her sister's hat. You cant bring back a character that has never been here.

This implies Minfilia was ever useful.

Whenever people say this I find myself saying the same thing. They clearly don't understand the value of good management in an organisation. Realistically since Minfilia left the Scions are far less efficient and organised. Everyone is in touch but they are all pretty much off doing their own things. Its more like a loose collection of associates with a shared goal than an organisation now.

[Atlaworks]

Whenever people say this I find myself saying the same thing. They clearly don't understand the value of good management in an organisation. Realistically since Minfilia left the Scions are far less efficient and organised. Everyone is in touch but they are all pretty much off doing their own things. Its more like a loose collection of associates with a shared goal than an organisation now.

This implies the Scions were ever organized.

[Belhi]

This implies the Scions were ever organized.

They were very organised. Each Archon worked with Minfilia to co-ordinate with each other and ensure everyone had the resources they needed. There was also quite a lot of support behind the scenes, gathering information such as hiring scholars to measure Aetheric levels around Eorzea, organising bodyguards for those scholars, tracking information on the movements of crystal shipments, monitoring beast tribe activity, maintaining dialog with the separate city states, dealing with bureaucratic issues and insuring that scion agents had access and authorisation to operate in areas they needed to work in and sending the lesser scions to deal with minor situations which didn't require an Archon or the WoL's attention. Those people hanging around the Waking Sands and Rising Stones weren't just there for window dressing. They were active scion members.

The best Managers are the ones who handle most of the stuff so you never even have to know about it and can just get on with your job. Where did you think the info on the Aetheric spike in the Twelveswood that indicated that King Moogle Mog had been summoned came from? How many forms has the WoL ever had to fill in when working for the Scions within City State territories?

[Atlaworks]

They were very organised.

Weren't organized enough to keep Livia sas Junius from kicking their shite in.

[Belhi]

Weren't organized enough to keep Livia sas Junius from kicking their shite in.

That was because the Scions were betrayed from within by a Thancred possessed Ascian. It was an extremely ballsy move by Garlemald. The guards at Vesper Bay didn't even see the attack due to Ascian assistance.

[Mysticales]

well if thats the case we should bring back Yda too and get rid of this Lice that has taken her place!

Speaking of that... Who do you think may have been sitting on the Throne in that last CS...?