We may get changes to cleric stance and esuna

[Yun_Tsuri]

The only way to remove Cleric stance for those who don't like it is to make healing intense, always. And it's not, not enough, reason why healers go DPS (and not sitting afk), 'cause optimization and having something to do all the time - pushing your job at its limit is where you find the pleasure to play it. It's like that for every game out there, even different ones such Overwatch, Mercy has to boost DPS - or doing DPS herself - when party HPs are capped and other healers have different stuff they can do as well. 'Healing only' is a no-go absolutely, unless you really need to push it every moment for the whole raids / contents and I am sure the average FFXIV player is not ready (or even interested) for that. So leaving casuals chilling in low-tier contents and not using Cleric stance while letting the hardcore players (but more like regular, I'd say, cause someone sitting afk during battle is the not regular one) doing that in raids is what you want, deffo.

[bswpayton]

The only way to remove Cleric stance for those who don't like it is to make healing intense, always. And it's not, not enough, reason why healers go DPS (and not sitting afk), 'cause optimization and having something to do all the time - pushing your job at its limit is where you find the pleasure to play it. It's like that for every game out there,

Many healers cant even heal as it stands now please dont make it even worse than it is now

[Shougun]

Would like to see each healer get more of their own stance system, and cleric stance not become a healer default just for variation sake. Of course going that route will be more challenging to balance though lol

I like the calm lands look, wonder how big that area of the game will be :3 (not the dungeon but the related zone).. Also is it just me or does the shield lob animation look larger? Like the Spirals and stuff. Could be I'm not used to seeing it at that angle though, or they tweaked it for the fun of it on their own side - like what might have happened to Titan Egi.

[Kosmos992k]

Cleric Stance and Esuna are so hard, i know.

Personally, i think they're shooting for more QoL changes, Cleric stance switching is more annoying than it needs to be (sometimes not responsive at all), and I wouldn't be mad if Esuna wasn't on the GCD.

Moving skills such as Esuna off the GCD, and essentially slimming down the GCD skills to primary damage dealing or damag healing skills would have the effect of masking the GCD because you would have a few more off GCD skills to weave in. Between the impact of skill/spell speed and an increase in off GCD skill use, the combat system might feel a bit faster without modifying the underlying GCD itself - which I believe they have indicated that they cannot and will not do. If they did change the GCD they'd have to rebalance the entire game, I don't see that happening. But QoL improvements and moving a few utility skills to off GCD would help make things feel faster during play - IMHO.

[Yun_Tsuri]

Many healers cant even heal as it stands now please dont make it even worse than it is now

Ahaha, you have a point.

[ErikMynhier]

All I'll say is, if SE dumbs the system down to 'bring up the bottom' so to speak, I'm going to be severely disinclined to continue subscribing even occasionally. There's little enough skill involved in combat as-is; it cannot be reduced.

That's not to say I'm automatically opposed to skill consolidation or a role-based system. I'm not. I think it could actually make the game easier to learn, while deepening the amount of required skill to master it. The devil is in the details, though. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

I love the phrase "skill to master" used by players of videogames. High level engineering, medical practice, Olympic athletics, those are skills to be mastered. This is pushing buttons in a set pattern learned from the internet within a precision window of 1 second. When I hear people complain about "removing skill" I can't help but laugh at the self important absurdity of it.

[Buff_Mama]

It would be nice if cleric became a toggle, or if there was some more animation effects for different stances. I like cleric stance, I like planning my actions ahead of time, but I do see a lot of healers who seem to struggle with cleric because they're afraid of having it on or off at the right time.

It would be cool if they went the whole hog on healer dps, and that atleast one of the healers had two actual stances and a system similar to war, as opposed to just stance on or off.

[Buff_Mama]

But it is still a skill? there are very obviously people who are 'skilled' at the game, how else do you expect us to talk about this? It's not being self important, it's a description of the subject at hand?

After all, as unimportant as yo-yoing is, you can still be skilled at it. Just because your skill doesn't have practical applications doesn't make it not a skill.

[Atlaworks]

It would be nice if cleric became a toggle, or if there was some more animation effects for different stances. I like cleric stance, I like planning my actions ahead of time, but I do see a lot of healers who seem to struggle with cleric because they're afraid of having it on or off at the right time.

It would be cool if they went the whole hog on healer dps, and that atleast one of the healers had two actual stances and a system similar to war, as opposed to just stance on or off.

That's how you end up with a party of one warrior and seven white mages.

[Derio]

I think of simply it. Making esuna for all healers available at an early level (ie. Under lvl 10). And perhaps removing the cooldown on cleric stance or readjustment to it completely.