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  1. #31
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    Marcellus_Cassius's Avatar
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    I'm against this unless its just for chatting. As it is now being competitive on the market only requires you to be logged in, this will introduce a new minimum. Do you really want this to be the new mini game on selling and buying. Personally I don't want to have to check my phone periodically to be competitive, especially if it will now require a "premium" fee to perform basic actions.
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    The fact is if you put up a item on the MB you will be uncutting someone yourself so. -.-
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  3. #33
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    Syvic Zivota
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    From here.


    I would assume, you pay for the app, and not XIV itself. Basically, the app is free until you either opt for the premium subscription or a "paid" license, and the paid option unlocks more things to do with the app, while the basic, free version only covers chatting with others and that's it.
    I don't know why people would pay to use it though honestly, it's almost double dipping on players subs as is. Many other games have companion apps, and they don't charge you to use them. Only difference here? You get to access the market? So assuming the fee is 5 a month, plus the standard fee sits at 14.99, you'd be paying 20 a month for this game. I certainly don't think the game is worth it at that cost.
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    Lexia Lightress
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    I'm sure there are people out there that will pay for the app, most likely the same one that buy $10 emotes or all 6 extra retainers but I would not pay to use the app. But if person feels they need to spend RL money to stay on top making their virtual money then I guess SE marketing team knows their customer base.
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    Skiros Drakon
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Since it's paid it's going to make the game more p2w
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    Mature Rudlum
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    I AM SO LOOKING FORWARD TO IT! this was something I requested a few years back and I'm glad they actually took notice of it.
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  7. #37
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    Elara Almasombria
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    At this point hardcore undercutting is a good thing with current prices VS incoming generate via quest/roulette/challenges.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I don't know why people would pay to use it though honestly, it's almost double dipping on players subs as is. Many other games have companion apps, and they don't charge you to use them. Only difference here? You get to access the market? So assuming the fee is 5 a month, plus the standard fee sits at 14.99, you'd be paying 20 a month for this game. I certainly don't think the game is worth it at that cost.
    Just the ability to manage your retainer ventures is a huge deal, so for sure many people will buy it. But to be honest, WoW had something similar and now is free for everyone, so yeah, hard to justify paying for it.

    Anyway, while I don't mind the mogstation this app, plus extra retainers fee and jump potions instead of fixing ARR MSQ problems is the biggest no no for a sub based MMO.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 05-03-2017 at 09:27 PM.

  8. #38
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    If each week are banned tens of thousands accounts, there is a reason. I'm no more concerned about cheaters botting with the app, than them botting with the client. Cheaters always exists.

    Undercutting some time helped me gain more, will buy undercut and resell at right price. Sell me that 50k materia at 5k, I'll be happy.
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  9. #39
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post
    Undercutting happens because all MMO player to player markets are perfectly competitive markets. Thus, the market for goods, especially durable goods, tend to drop to the point where the marginal cost is equal to the marginal revenue. /economicsnerd
    This.

    People complaining about undercutters are complaining about working economics.
    They literally complain that they can't mug the demanders with their excessive prices or complain that they don't have a monopoly, respectivley a cartell with arranged (no wide range) prices.
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  10. #40
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    Ast Eryut
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    Economics without limits leads to bad practice.
    Everything needs limits and balance (didn't sophia teach us anything?). Everything.
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