What Would You Sacrifice for a Glamour Catalogue?

[Naunet]

I just thought it was worthwhile digging this thread up to point out that... WildStar is increasing their Holo-wardrobe appearance save limit to 2000 appearances, up from 500. Patiently awaiting additional costume sets beyond 12 to purchase and quite confident they will do so.

Now, SE, when are you going to follow other games into the modern world?

[Shougun]

I just thought it was worthwhile digging this thread up to point out that... WildStar is increasing their Holo-wardrobe appearance save limit to 2000 appearances, up from 500. Patiently awaiting additional costume sets beyond 12 to purchase and quite confident they will do so.

Now, SE, when are you going to follow other games into the modern world?

Lol, 2000 XD.

Said it in another thread but might as well add it here too:

GW2, glamour log afaik saves every skin in the game (every single one)... so.. that's a lot lol.

WoW, just found a more recent example (still not sure it's up to date though), 741 saved skins.

Edit: my 741 number is off, it's much higher~!

Actually, it's more than that. That screenshot only shows how many cloak skins there are. If you look at DarkSlayerGrimm's post (#62), you'll see another 2 figures 242 & 371. The 371 relates only to how many plate chest pieces there are. This does not include cloth/leather/mail chest pieces, or other slots. I am unsure if the 242 is for just 2H swords, or all usable sword by that class shown (looks like a retribution paladin?), but needless to say, it's a lot. The glamour log does not include white/grey items though, just Green, blue & epic gear (stuff that binds when equiped).

Thanks Natsuno

[Naunet]

Lol, 2000 XD.

Said it in another thread but might as well add it here too:

GW2, glamour log afaik saves every skin in the game (every single one)... so.. that's a lot lol.

Rift and WoW do the same as far as unlocking everything in the game. I'd prefer it like that tbh, but WildStar's 2000 limit should tide me over for a long time to come (and I'm comfortable in knowing that Carbine is receptive to players' pleas). But yeah, so many ways to do Glamour better than what we have... @_@ Same with housing...

[Shougun]

@_@ Same with housing...

/comfort /cries with.

I know we talked about it before but I just recently looked at GW2's halls again. They're so big and have so many features to fiddle with @_@... Oh and you can be part of 5 guilds at once, and no house issues again.

The memory issues in this game hurts me, like first world problem triggering lol. Worse still because I love SE/FFXIV's graphics so its not like I hate the whole thing, the house decorations are beautiful and if their system itself was competitive they'd clearly be the best or near it, just so sad the system has the issues it has (and isn't as customizable/large). Although part of me respects that its probably due to the fact they went from massive issues part of 1.0 to a lot less 2.0, but I imagine under the surface due to the required speed of being remade that there is still old/non-optimal code.

If we honestly believe that they can't account bind Mog shop purchases then it must be something like that. I just hope that at some point they can get rid of those issues, banish them and send them away forever.. plz Yoshida Senpai lol.

On the glamour, I think the seasonal items are still outside of the wardrobe in WoW - isn't it? I think almost but not quite all items. That'd be something that would probably drive FFXIV players up the wall lol, but 741+ glamour slots is better than none. I do like the interface though, with the tabs and filters I appreciate that (GW2 has tabs too, but I like WoW's presentation more).

Edit: I had the incorrect idea about the slot count it is much higher than 741:

Actually, it's more than that. That screenshot only shows how many cloak skins there are. If you look at DarkSlayerGrimm's post (#62), you'll see another 2 figures 242 & 371. The 371 relates only to how many plate chest pieces there are. This does not include cloth/leather/mail chest pieces, or other slots. I am unsure if the 242 is for just 2H swords, or all usable sword by that class shown (looks like a retribution paladin?), but needless to say, it's a lot. The glamour log does not include white/grey items though, just Green, blue & epic gear (stuff that binds when equiped).

Thank you for the info Natsuno

[Ayer2015]

I would sacrifice another diadem or lord of vermilion, that's for sure....

[otarolgam]

F. I see no reason for it. My personal opinion.

EDIT: I would rather see a new expanded hunt log though.

Not from Balmung. Wouldn't understand.

[Ama_Hamada]

F. I see no reason for it. My personal opinion.

EDIT: I would rather see a new expanded hunt log though.

Why? the need is inventory bloat, something this game has a huge issue with.

With that said, remove them all if they need to, but I do not see why that has to be done.

So both
d) All of the Above
e) Something Else

for me, they can remove that + more to address inventory bloat if they need to.

[Laraul]

Why do people believe this is a memory issue and not a development resource issue? They have so many developers and so much time which has to be spent wisely. The vast majority of time goes into getting content finished so its ready when the next patch rolls out. Everything else is lower priority.

[Kahnom]

My Horns and Scales

[KisaiTenshi]

Title asks the question. One of the big reasons we haven't received a Glamour Catalogue/Log is due to the high amounts of data that need to be stored for each individual playable character. The topic came up with some friends over Discord and I thought I'd bring it here to see what people think.

So, what would you Sacrifice to get a Glamour Catalogue?

a) The Hunting Log
b) The Sightseeing Log
c) The Fishing Guide
d) All of the Above
e) Something Else
f) None (Don't want a Glamour Catalogue)

I don't think any of these thing are even related to the lack of a Glamour catalog.

The principle reason why it doesn't exist is because certain mechanics in the game have to remain stored in RAM, or synced between the server and the client. Those logs are not things that the player can change, they are read-only, so the player's client only needs to go "show me the X log" and it will update whatever the game client has, regardless of it needing an update. Only things related directly to inventory the player carries have a limitation, because every time you touch something in the inventory, a sync has to be done. If you start opening inventory windows while in combat, you will increase the latency on your end, and if you start changing your gear in a group of 100 people in the immediate area, it forces a sync on them as well. So 100 people changing their outfits simultaneously requires 100^2 (10,000) data syncs to happen simultaneously.

The thing that would solve the glamour system is simply having a way to deposit it into a "gear-set bank" of sorts and thus removing it from the player inventory as something that ever needs to be synced again. This way the glamour applied to something is reduced to a few variables against the equipped gear and not synced to all the other data about the gear if it remained available.

From an engineering perspective, each inventory item is probably 256 bytes consisting of id's, stats, colors, melds, durability and so forth. If reduced to a glamour it would only have an id, and color.