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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Remind me when I get a decent internet connection again to upload an A11s so you can critique why I always feel so overstretched going into final phase double whirlwinds, I'm pretty certain I'm napping and not getting back into the middle soon enough or such and it's always felt a bit too tight at that point =(

    <3 solid second opinions.
    Absolutely!! I like discussing different healer strats and watching others videos on how they do things.

    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Part of what you're seeing in that fight is a lack of synergy between our two healers. Our main healer doesn't trust that he'll get help when he needs it in a pinch, so he neglects those dps windows because our SCH stayed dps stance so much. And I know he'd agree with you on those indoms and succors during tower phases because I remember him asking for that! The problem was once Akiva proved he could heal through it, Astraea let him. Also, our off healer is in TS with us but never uses a mic, only text chat. So that's a strong consideration in shifting him to an actual dps slot while someone with a mic takes point on heals.

    Good critiques. We definitely tightened things up after the first clear and that one was a bit sloppy bc of various reasons.
    I definitely got that impression watching your video. It's like watching tanks have a power struggle on who is the MT when really they have to work together to be optimal. (i.e. PLD/DRK pulls the boss on all fights when Unchained opener is by far the most optimal). I'm sure you tightened things up more with more clears. I'm pretty sure on my first clear half the party was dead. It's a good idea to shift roles around to who can build the most synergy together for tanks and healers because of how important it is, that's awesome that your group as a whole is able to make those decisions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    This detail in particular interests me the most as I'm in a very similar setting all told and whilst it works nicely for us, it's clear it's not particularly optimal. Even on the run that got my co healer world second on A12S (pre echo), our combined DPS was barely top 50 material. On the flipside, when I'm on SCH and DPSing, my damage numbers aren't close to his, but I subconsciously bubble big hits and such even if it's not 'needed'. It makes me wonder if an aggressive 'main healer' coupled with a cautious but DPS capable SCH would actually be more effective overall.
    Having an aggressive Main Heals with a cautious Support Heals (unless you are trying to optimize as much as possible, then there's really no distinction between the two) is much better than having an aggressive Support Heals and a cautious Main Heals because while you may end up with extra shielding with a cautious support healer, both healers will be healing optimal and with high DPS. (because DiAST and WHM potencies are so high it's best that they are aggressive with how they use their CDs in order to make DPS windows for both healers)

    Here's an example of that although it's pre and post Echo it should give a good representation

    Damage Pre-Echo - Cautious MH
    Healing Pre-Echo - Cautious MH

    Damage Post Echo Aggressive MH
    Healing Post Echo Aggressive Heals

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    Looking at A11S - Sebazy comparison - Aggressive VS Conservative

    Usually the biggest difference in healer DPS is how hard the first phase is pushed. Keep in mind some of the difference is made up of pushing mechanics and optimal comps.

    Sebazy Healer DPS

    Sebazy Heals

    JX Healer DPS

    JX Heals
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 04-27-2017 at 08:14 AM.

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