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    Thanks for the reply, that's pretty clear. Now you say that Steam counts as a platform, would buying AAR&HW on Steam allow for playing on Steam on both Mac and PC?

    A separate question is why did they make it so needlessly confusing and complex, you already have a Square account with subscription information, WTF did they have to bind it to client OS as well? I've got no problem with say buying the client once per OS, I get that it costs money to support multiple platforms, but this seems needlessly complex given just how simple their competition make it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhuaglar View Post
    would buying AAR&HW on Steam allow for playing on Steam on both Mac and PC?
    I'm looking at the Steam store page for XIV and it shows only the windows icon, so you'd still only be able to play on Windows. I haven't heard anything about plans to add mac or linux clients to Steam, and I expect it to stay Windows-only for the foreseeable future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhuaglar View Post
    I get that it costs money to support multiple platforms, but this seems needlessly complex given just how simple their competition make it.
    How many of their competitors are also on console, or have physical copies of their game for sale?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    How many of their competitors are also on console, or have physical copies of their game for sale?
    Elder Scrolls Online is probably the best modern example, although there have been others over the years. Even so, I think most of those examples did not allow cross-platform play, so the concept of needing to buy multiple licenses in order to play the same character across multiple platforms doesn't even exist in those cases.

    That said... Square Enix definitely has a reputation for its arcane (complicated) account and billing practices, at least among their North American audience. When someone makes a statement that SE account management "seems needlessly complex" it's certainly true. Just as a recent example, I pre-ordered Stormblood and normally I would expect to just log into my account in the store and the purchase with all perks would automatically apply itself to my account like you would normally expect with any other game. Instead, after making the purchase from one website, I had to log into another website to apply the purchase to my account, and then had to log into another website in order to apply the promo code for the item bonuses to my account. The fact that all three websites use the same log-in credentials makes this seem super unnecessary and complicated. And I'm fortunate enough to have only ever played on a single platform for FFXIV using a single account that goes all the way back to early FFXI days, so it's relatively simple for me most of the time. I always sympathize with anyone who has a question about billing or accounts, especially when it involves multiple licences, because it's almost never an obvious answer to find so no wonder they had a question about it.

    If I had to guess why they do it the way they do... I'd guess that their account/billing choices are more consistent with typical Japanese and/or Asian practices rather than the western ones that we are used to, so some of the ways they organize their sites and rules just feels weird to us but might be perfectly normal to someone from Japan. Just a guess, mind you. I know that when I find myself on a website that is clearly intended for a Japanese audience - for example, a popular fansite or a Japanese tv show's website - the typical layout, linking structure, and overall navigation is often very different from what I would normally expect of a similar type of page intended for a North American audience. But that's purely anecdotal and subjective observation, so take it as you will.
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    Agreed, tho. The whole multiple site thing is weirdly convoluted. Mogstations and Lodestone, official SE site, whatever this forum is connected to, game client. It's definitely not a very streamlined service.
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