EU Confirmed as 3rd Rate Customer

[Aronys]

EU players never got free transfers. Only NA players did. There was the choice of stay where we are or pay money to transfer while everyone else gets freebies. So much for bending over.

[Tinkerblue]

EU players never got free transfers. Only NA players did. There was the choice of stay where we are or pay money to transfer while everyone else gets freebies. So much for bending over.

My EU friends got the free transfer option when we moved from a Chaos server to Aether server.

[Aronys]

Well, that then wasn't advertised, as this was the announcement: http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...447.1443077166

* The free World transfer service will not apply to characters moved from the Elemental, Gaia, Mana, Aether, or Primal data centers to the Chaos data center.

EDIT: Ok, misread your post.
Chaos is EU, Aether is NA. There were transfers from Chaos to Aether, and not to Chaos. So, EU players never got free transfers to the EU servers.

[LalaRu]

Following the reasons given for the previous free transfer when a datacenter moved :

Because the Chaos data center is being relocated, certain players may find they are no longer playing on a desirable World. In order to address this issue, players will be allowed to transfer from Worlds within the Chaos data center to Worlds within the Elemental, Gaia, Mana, Aether, or Primal data centers free of charge for one week.

Residents in the North American region playing on the Chaos data center may begin to experience issues with latency after the transition. We ask that you try the game after the transfer, and if you experience connectivity issues disruptive to gameplay, consider using the free World transfer service while it is available.

the same reasons can be applied to this datacenter move, and I don't see anything that makes this transfer different than the previous one, as long as it always is a datacenter being relocated.

It is not that a datacenter moves every day, and to give here a free transfer option too, isn't unreasonable. If SE afraid to lose the income from people jumping the free service for other reasons, they just have to put rules for it in order to make the service available to who really have issues with the move.

And after saying the above, no, I'll not agree with the OP, because his post is contradicting itself: he want play with friends but complain about no free transfer, but transfer means no more his friends. Unless they all were EU but made the very bad choice of playing on NA servers.

And no, as long as EU datacenter were moved in EU, I don't feel being 3rd rate. If I have to get a feel, it maybe is some envy against NA players that in previous relocation they done the same poor choice to play in EU servers, but got a free server jump anyway.

[Lexia]

The thing that makes it different is the EU servers were located in NA and then moving move to a different region a actual EU location. With this the NA data center just being moved to different part of NA staying in the same region.

[Tint]

The thing that makes it different is the EU servers were located in NA and then moving move to a different region a actual EU location. With this the NA data center just being moved to different part of NA staying in the same region.

what has the region to do with the connection? the actual distance to the data center is what matters, and yoshi himself said:

We expect that the players most likely to experience a significant increase in ping times will be those in Europe playing on an NA data center World. We will be working hard to minimize the anticipated increases, but there is the chance that based on their location, some players may be more severely affected by this relocation than others.

so he knows this will affect EU players not for the better. so why no free transfer?

edit:

i also want to point out that, regarding to the topic "EU Confirmed as 3rd Rate Customer", NA players (wich are 2nd Rate Customers behind JP, wich is also not okay) again get the campaign for the DLC items before the EU players. you know, the maid/butler and fat white chocobo and now the eastern stuff and cloud mount.

[ReplicaX]

It's not the same at all, you're just deflecting and deliberately ignoring the very valid concerns raised. European servers were only added after a lot of European players decided to settle down on North American servers.

They were advertised as EU recommended servers since ARR Release with the exception of Ragnarok, which was created during the server merges for 1.20 and advertised as a EU recommended server.

So honestly, the recommended option has been in place since 1.20.


Personally I am not deflecting or ignoring what happened with the EU DataCenter move. As I feel, any player that wanted to transfer off Chaos should have paid for it period. Why? Because they knew they were the recommended EU Servers. Just like EU Players knew non-Chaos DC were NA Servers.

Those that feel this is not the case, simply ignored SE's recommendations. Right on the Character Creation Screen since 2.0 with (EU) tags.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/ps3/

PS3 Playguide still has the same images since ARR launch, minus when they added the DataCenter option at the Title screen. Which in the images you can clearly see there is no DataCenter under the Start Selection. However, upon server selection all the (NA) and (EU) tags were there.

[Lexia]

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If they were going to offer free transfers they would of did it when they moved the EU servers. How long the new EU data center been around now, over a year? NA staying in NA for all we know the the new data center could be only 10 miles away from the current one.

[StouterTaru]

because i have friends in NA?

now im getting more ping

They haven't moved the servers yet, how are you getting more ping?

Or do you mean you plan on getting more ping from the new location that SE won't disclose?

[Kazrah]

Or do you mean you plan on getting more ping from the new location that SE won't disclose?

Given their statement that EU players would have ping issues issues, that would indicate the servers are being moved further west, which doesn't quite say much given how I think nearly everything on the NA continent is west of where that datacenter is now.

Also, as a NA player on a EU server, I haven't had much issue with ping, but still feel like something should be done to better accommodate Aussie players.