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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post

    I would rather they focus in on sets that differ between the genders than unlock past gear - i.e. both genders can get the set but both are actually different and not a dress slapped on a man (looking at you Astro AF gear). I very much dislike all the gear specifically designed for women and then given to men as a clear afterthought.
    Yup. This is exactly it. But it goes around the other day as well. I really like feminine glams that have some sort of sex appeal. But my only options are cutsy frilly girl dresses, nun robes covering me from head to toe or overly skimpy looks.
    And while I think the Shire Jacket looks AMAZING on guys (and especially so on Elezen guys!!), I just think it looks "Meh" and kinda boring on female chars(Im sure some people will disagree with me here, its just my opinion though). And also Pants. Its either super frilly cute robes or
    its stuff with PANTS because "why bother making 2 different versions of the set for each gender when you can just make a poor attempt at creating a somewhat neutral version for both with only half the amount of work?!"

    Can I have a somewhat sexy caster/healer dress that does not go all the way down to my feet and all the way up to my neck? Can I please have something also showing my incredible elezen lady legs and maybe something that shows off my collar bone and shoulders or a small boob window like the Hellfire Tank set has? But like, just for females? I dont really need the overly revealing korean MMORPG-style dresses, but ya know. Just give me something inbetween "skimpy" and "nun-like"
    I always have to mix and match as well and it really isnt always easy to find glams matching my taste either.


    This "one looks fits all" thing theyve had going on for the longest time needs to stop. I can clearly see how its even more upsetting for guys, but it is for me, as a woman, as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    Snip.
    I mean, I do LOVE the shire coat, but its still a little annoying it's one of two items I can wear without throwing my perception of masculinity to the winds. As for females, along the same vein with fully covered but sexy, I think a Bayonetta-style body suit would look amazing on Elezen females~ There definitely needs to more diversity with glamours for both genders.
    I also have a theory that they design almost everything on Miqo'te and Au Ra females with little care about anyone else, but that is a tin-foil hat discussion for another time.

    Also @Synrin (I can't figure out how to multiple quote), it can be fun, and thats why I support it, but it's not gonna stop me from sipping my martini and trying to start Eorzean "What Not To Wear". XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    I also have a theory that they design almost everything on Miqo'te and Au Ra females with little care about anyone else
    Hey I think it's relevant. And I also agree and think you're 100% right. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it was datamined at some point that almost all gear in this game is designed on a female Miqo'te model first then made for other races and genders. That includes male exclusive sets. Example, the Aymeric set has was datamined and it was revealed that the set on females does actually exist. It just wasn't released.

    All this would explain why male exclusives are so easily made unisex because most likely, they are already created. Female exclusives on the other hand, are made on females but no male version is created. This is likely why there are no male versions of the bunny suit, or spring dress, or Thavnarian bustier, etc. Because it would actually have to be designed from the ground up(Like the current male bunny suit development!).

    It's also probably why unisex gear sets look so feminine. Because they're originally made to fit the female model then copied onto males.

    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Why and when did this game get Alphinaud and Alisae DLC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    Can I have a somewhat sexy caster/healer dress that does not go all the way down to my feet and all the way up to my neck? Can I please have something also showing my incredible elezen lady legs and maybe something that shows off my collar bone and shoulders or a small boob window like the Hellfire Tank set has? But like, just for females? I dont really need the overly revealing korean MMORPG-style dresses, but ya know. Just give me something inbetween "skimpy" and "nun-like"
    In my case, I think that everything you said here is a good argument for unlocking as much as possible - the more parts we have to work with, the more chance we can all make a decent outfit perfectly tailored to our character's physique and our own personal preferences. But from what you and Tsumdere describe about what you're looking for, I wonder if you have checked out the GARO sets? Some of them really fit the requirement of being a more sexy style of dress (for ladies) and the guys get more coats than they know what to do with. I love coats. It's just a huge shame that they're all job and/or role locked because it rather limits their glamour potential :/



    The healer one is quite cool from behind if a guy wants to do a twisted version of a WHM, I think. Especially relevant to the thread as these cool GARO outfits are riddled with genderlocked parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    In my case, I think that everything you said here is a good argument for unlocking as much as possible
    I'm sorry but thats still pretty far from what I have in mind and frankly, I feel this is a very good piece for males and it can gladly stay that way :/

    Examples of what I mean would be:












    Theyre actually all from Aion. Really liked the style they had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    Theyre actually all from Aion. Really liked the style they had.
    I'm sorry, but while I love the armor designs for Aion, I really don't like armor that looks epic on guys but ends up just looking "sexy" on women. Armor that looks epic on guys should look the same on women, and armor that looks sexy and revealing on women should do the same thing for men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I'm sorry, but while I love the armor designs for Aion, I really don't like armor that looks epic on guys but ends up just looking "sexy" on women. Armor that looks epic on guys should look the same on women, and armor that looks sexy and revealing on women should do the same thing for men.
    This is such a hard thing to balance though :/ What set should we make look sexy and what set should we make look badass, and then, as always, who should we prioritise? Males or females? Ugh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synrin View Post
    This is such a hard thing to balance though :/ What set should we make look sexy and what set should we make look badass, and then, as always, who should we prioritise? Males or females? Ugh
    It's not that hard and Aion already do that with most of their armor (however in their culture most of the time females are going to look femenine and males masculine, even if both are wearing "sexy armor"), was the point of my example. TERA is the game that really do it wrong:



    Anyway I understand that some player want their females to look masculine and their males to look femenine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synrin View Post
    This is such a hard thing to balance though :/ What set should we make look sexy and what set should we make look badass, and then, as always, who should we prioritise? Males or females? Ugh
    Erm, if you're designing an armor to be equally sexy or equally badass... you're not prioritizing one gender over the other.

    TERA's been the one to get the closest to right, IMO, though they could have done for a bit more badass in some of the female designs. The equality of castanic armor choices was perfection, however.
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