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    So i got a taste of the glitched Dissipation.. and i miss it

    Blah blah abusing in game glitches are bad... but Dissipation is a very situational skill. You would use it during long animations times and anywhere else that wouldnt cause a severe trade off for healing.

    When you use the skill you are sacrificing an ai that can react quickly or be under your control for 30+ seconds, swiftcast or multiple gcds to hard cast. You do get MP back but your coheal probably just ends up losing it.

    With the glitched way, You get a free fairy swap (2 stacks = same mp) + healing buff (not that it really effects the ability) + 3 stacks to manipulate as you please.


    The fact that this skill encouraged quick fairy swaps is what made me love it. You are sacrificing swiftcast and a gcd as a tradeoff but it's worth it.

    I think they should carry this over into stormblood and just change it slightly.

    Dissipation: Upon execution you gain 3 Aetherflow stacks and your fairy is sent away. Healing done while under the effect of dissipation is increased by 20%.

    Your next summon or summon II is instant cast. When summon or summon II is cast, the effect of dissipation ends.


    It's not Broken. It's on a 180 second cool down. The healing buff is very meh. The MP cost is very real and it still costs you a gcd to use.


    I got the taste of the good life and I think Scholar has sooo much more flavor with it.

    [If they wanna make the skill really interesting they would add a critical rate buff instead of healing buff, causing you to balance healing from fairy and extra dps from the crit, but the fairy swap is what i really want to see.]
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 04-24-2017 at 04:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Blah blah abusing in game glitches are bad... but Dissipation is a very situational skill. You would use it during long animations times and anywhere else that wouldnt cause a severe trade off for healing.

    When you use the skill you are sacrificing an ai that can react quickly or be under your control for 30+ seconds, swiftcast or multiple gcds to hard cast. You do get MP back but your coheal probably just ends up losing it.

    With the glitched way, You get a free fairy swap (2 stacks = same mp) + healing buff (not that it really effects the ability) + 3 stacks to manipulate as you please.


    The fact that this skill encouraged quick fairy swaps is what made me love it. You are sacrificing swiftcast and a gcd as a tradeoff but it's worth it.

    I think they should carry this over into stormblood and just change it slightly.

    Dissipation: Upon execution you gain 3 Aetherflow stacks and your fairy is sent away. Healing done while under the effect of dissipation is increased by 20%.

    Your next summon or summon II is instant cast. When summon or summon II is cast, the effect of dissipation ends.


    It's not Broken. It's on a 180 second cool down. The healing buff is very meh. The MP cost is very real and it still costs you a gcd to use.


    I got the taste of the good life and I think Scholar has sooo much more flavor with it.

    [If they wanna make the skill really interesting they would add a critical rate buff instead of healing buff, causing you to balance healing from fairy and extra dps from the crit, but the fairy swap is what i really want to see.]
    no idea what glitch thinkg you refer to but I will agree the healing buff is useless. doesn't buff lustrate or indomnibility for example...

    and genereally speaking given the expense of resummoning your fairy it's really not worth using dissipation if you're in a pinch because the cost of getting your fairy back will cripple you even more getting the stacks might be usefull in a real pinch but again in that pinch you'd really think the potency buff would affect lustrates and indomnibility...

    I've never found a use for dissipation personally. even the absolute worst of parties. it's never worth losing the fairy... even mathematically doesn't add up.

    physkik + embrace is more potent than phykik with + 20% potency.. that's why I've never found it worth losing my fairy for.. especially when it costs a little under 2000 mp to get your fairy back...

    if I had that much mp to spare I wouldn't need dissipation in the first place....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    no idea what glitch thinkg you refer
    If you used dissipation while resummoning your fairy with a fairy still out, it would eat the fairy that was going away and you would gain dissipation's effects and your new summon would come out. So you could dissipate and have a fairy out.

    They fixed this last patch.
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    Not going to lie. This completely changed the way I do fights. I hope they add something like how the fairy glitch was to 4.0 as well
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    I'll keep hoping SE suck it up and change it to a flat 20% potency boost across the board (perhaps with a reduced duration to keep it in line) =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Not going to lie. This completely changed the way I do fights. I hope they add something like how the fairy glitch was to 4.0 as well
    The dream. I would even settle for them adding something like a level 70 skill. Call it Aetherical Transposition:

    Your current fairy is sent away. The opposite fairy is summoned. Fairy cool downs are reset. If under the effect of dissipation, remove dissipation. Your next fairy cast is free and instant. Lolz <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    Careful. EULA 2.1:
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    Lol. Thanks mom.

    The glitch showed what sort of playstyle scholar could have. The glitch is dead. I'm just asking SE to consider making it part of the Scholar's playstyle here forward. It made an ok skill good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Lol. Thanks mom.

    The glitch showed what sort of playstyle scholar could have. The glitch is dead. I'm just asking SE to consider making it part of the Scholar's playstyle here forward. It made an ok skill good.
    No need to be salty.

    I just assumed you, and potential readers may not know that if they used the glitch, they were in violation of the EULA. I mean... the alternative is assuming you knew it was a violation and came to the conclusion that documenting your exploits on the official forums was a good idea.

    But hey, not my account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    No need to be salty.

    I just assumed you, and potential readers may not know that if they used the glitch, they were in violation of the EULA. I mean... the alternative is assuming you knew it was a violation and came to the conclusion that documenting your exploits on the official forums was a good idea.

    But hey, not my account.
    Not being salty winsock. xD I'll take the free bump. The glitch let SCH experience what this skill could do. Kinda like an unwanted beta test for a skill rebalance.
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