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    Why would you not start attacks with Venomous Bite > Windbite > Barrage > Sidewinder? Sidewinder seems to be the heaviest hitting attack, if the foe under the effects of both Venomous Bite and Windbite. Empyreal Arrow is only 230 potency while Sidewinder can get up to 260.
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    You can't use Barrage on Sidewinder as it's an ability and not a weaponskill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uberrod9 View Post
    Why would you not start attacks with Venomous Bite > Windbite > Barrage > Sidewinder?
    Barrage does not work with your oGCD abilities (such as Sidewinder or Bloodletter), only weaponskills (Empyreal Arrow).
    Level 50 rotation: Barrage > Heavy Shot (as it's your highest potency weaponskill at that level)
    Level 60 rotation: Barrage > Empyreal Arrow (higher potency than Heavy Shot)

    You should also pair your Hawk's Eye and Blood for Blood buffs with your Barrage. They share (almost) the same amount of recast (B4B is 80 seconds), and will buff your Barraged skill.
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  4. #34
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    Thanks! That's good to know.


    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Barrage does not work with your oGCD abilities (such as Sidewinder or Bloodletter), only weaponskills (Empyreal Arrow).
    Level 50 rotation: Barrage > Heavy Shot (as it's your highest potency weaponskill at that level)
    Level 60 rotation: Barrage > Empyreal Arrow (higher potency than Heavy Shot)

    You should also pair your Hawk's Eye and Blood for Blood buffs with your Barrage. They share (almost) the same amount of recast (B4B is 80 seconds), and will buff your Barraged skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uberrod9 View Post
    Thanks! That's good to know.
    You're welcome! (^^)v
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    @shynryu could you post your opener rotation when you get a chance? Thanks.
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.mnpvegakos9h
    I generally use a slight variation of the the second opener listed in this guide because as a caster main I prefer BV after the pull. In a scenario where that doesn't matter however, such as on SSS, I use the first opener. The only difference between the two is the placement of BV+RS and HE+B4B are swapped. If not using a Potion, using Repelling Shot in its place is a good alternative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinryuReishiki View Post
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.mnpvegakos9h
    I generally use a slight variation of the the second opener listed in this guide because as a caster main I prefer BV after the pull. In a scenario where that doesn't matter however, such as on SSS, I use the first opener. The only difference between the two is the placement of BV+RS and HE+B4B are swapped. If not using a Potion, using Repelling Shot in its place is a good alternative.
    That's a big ass guide lol thank you so much I'm having a look those rotations are so different but I'm gonna give it a go. Been doing SSS all day yesterday and still stuck between 20/23secs on a12s dummy is.so frustrating lol
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    That's a big ass guide lol thank you so much I'm having a look those rotations are so different but I'm gonna give it a go. Been doing SSS all day yesterday and still stuck between 20/23secs on a12s dummy is.so frustrating lol
    The one thing I noticed at a glance was CD alignment. Hawk's Eye, Blood for Blood, and Barrage should always be together. Internal Release, Flaming Arrow, and Sidewinder should always be together, and they'll always be up for Raging Strikes. Every other Raging Strikes will line up with Hawk's Eye and such, if used on cooldown.

    If it doesn't cost you a usage of a CD, it's better to delay it to align with other CDs. For example on the SSS dummy, it's at most a 3 minute fight. So no matter what you do, you only get 2 RS, HE, B4B, Barrage, and 3 IR and Flaming Arrows. Because of that, you'll get more out of your second HE+B4B+Barrage by delaying them until second RS is ready, along with third IR.
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    Thank you!

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    Tsilyi L'sombra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizencorr View Post
    Finally, Feint. I use it pretty often. Every time I have an oGCD up, by the time my GCD finishes cycling, I pop Feint so I can use the oGCD right away. It's a TP sink, but we want higher overall damage. So if BL is ready, don't just HS for 150 potency, Feint for 120 AND BL for 150. Or any oGCD really. The total potency makes it worth it in that span of 2.whatever seconds.
    Feint is very good and smart use of it to double weave buffs or Barrage-EA and for on the move dps is good, but I don't think you should have to use it to fit one non-cast time ogcd (as in, anything but EA) between normal GCD abilities like Heavy Shot with WM up, even with a good amount of sks.
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