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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Can There Please Be A Feast: 4v4(Training) or (Unranked)?

    It's really discouraging to try and play any other job than the job I know in 4v4 because if I do try, it will 100% chance end up in many losses destroying my rank. 8v8 is nothing like 4v4 ranked. Players are different, strategies are different, maps are different, powerups are different, just the whole thing isn't the same and it's not good practice.

    I have a SMN, DRK, MNK, and AST and as much as I want to try and learn them, I can't really learn them safely. When I did briefly start trying to learn AST I was bad at it and people kept telling me to quit ranked PvP aaand, I understand how they feel and would hate a bad healer tanking my rank too.


    My preferred request:
    Feast: 4v4(Training)-
    A pseudo-ranked Feast where you complete matches to get points and rank up. Just like real Feast but no leaderboard connection. A separate thing. It goes up to Gold rank(or Platinum maybe) and then you "pass" training. Passing the training competition gives you a free bump to Bronze in the real Feast competition. Stops there though. This way the newbies/GARO farmers may get filtered out of ranked easier and people who want to learn a job can learn comfortably.


    Other suggestion:
    Feast 4v4(Unranked)-
    If Training is too complicated just make unranked and call it a day. Won't have a gradual skill climb like a training could have though.


    Also, both of these modes should come with less harassment involved since it would be purely meant for learning or farming GARO wins casually. No one's real rank would get hurt so there shouldn't be any anger over losses.
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 04-22-2017 at 09:11 PM.

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    I would love a 4v4 unrank with chat enables, so you can communicate and get feedbacks from your team members if they notice you can improve on certain things.
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    I proposed it before and all were against it as it would split small pvp community even more.
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    Febreealle Goldlyonse
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    My biggest question is why we even have an 8v8 Unranked Feast in the first place, when we NEED a 4v4 unranked for people to practice. Yeah, we have a pre-season, but that's a time limited thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaelseMikiro View Post
    My biggest question is why we even have an 8v8 Unranked Feast in the first place, when we NEED a 4v4 unranked for people to practice. Yeah, we have a pre-season, but that's a time limited thing.

    Because 8s are fun. I like 8s, requires zero commitment, no rating to gain or lose, it's more active than 4v4 queues and you get some fairly humorous games. And now it doesn't even have the salt it in either. It was 8v8 that attracted me to playing ranked 4s in the first place, because I wanted more out of PvP.

    (Although I got plat title now so /afk)
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    remove tomestones from feast
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I proposed it before and all were against it as it would split small pvp community even more.
    Split it? Really? I think if anything it'd make it stronger and more popular because:

    1. A new unranked mode to play
    2. A hopefully more laid-back environment
    3. A place for everyone to practice/learn instead of being constantly bashed
    4. And with people learning, more may try Feast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    Because 8s are fun. I like 8s, requires zero commitment, no rating to gain or lose, it's more active than 4v4 queues and you get some fairly humorous games. And now it doesn't even have the salt it in either. It was 8v8 that attracted me to playing ranked 4s in the first place, because I wanted more out of PvP.

    (Although I got plat title now so /afk)
    I think their point is that unranked 8s could easily be dropped for unranked 4s instead. They'd still have 0 time commitment and no rating fuss, but might offer newer players a more realistic small-scale PVP experience than unranked 8s do ATM (where you wind up with extra healers or tanks for support, etc).
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    I think their point is that unranked 8s could easily be dropped for unranked 4s instead. They'd still have 0 time commitment and no rating fuss, but might offer newer players a more realistic small-scale PVP experience than unranked 8s do ATM (where you wind up with extra healers or tanks for support, etc).
    Spot on! And I actually forgot 8v8 role matchmaking is random too. Even more of a reason why we need a ranked Feast "simulator" of sorts
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