As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[Taika]

Ive already said you cant give concrete evidence of pressure

You can give evidence such as screenshots of situations in which people cause or experience pressure or quotes from forum discussions. You can even describe the situations and what people have said in them to contextualise what you mean by it, even if you couldn't provide direct evidence.

[Feyona]

How is that in anyway different to a DPS that's underperforming in a farm?


Simply put, if I join a pug run for A12S and the group already has a healy centric WHM, I will find another group to join. It's just common sense and courtesy.

Your simply not getting my point ithat in each siuation YOU are the healer. If some are expecting you to dps when you feel you need to heal that is too much expectation, hense unwarranted pressure. Dps yes pressure to do well, and thats it. No added pressure of being expected to heal as well. When the situation doesnt allow it you cannot do both or youcan but why do people expect it no matter if tank not using cds , dps taking damage etc

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Why are you all still arguing with a wall?

[Feyona]

You can give evidence such as screenshots of situations in which people cause or experience pressure or quotes from forum discussions. You can even describe the situations and what people have said in them to contextualise what you mean by it, even if you couldn't provide direct evidence.

Yes thats true. And there has been afew on threads on pointed out harrassment. Ive even been told by someone in the past of someone not being allowed in a static cos they dpsed too much and put too much pressure on the other healer to heal. Theres another perspective.

[Feyona]

Why are you all still arguing with a wall?

Good question. I really dont know. I for one am answering people that quote me maybe we are all walls. Why do people talk about anything?

[Wanzer]

[Awful]

I am absolutely sure of what I see or dont see

You mean like this?

[Sebazy]

Dps yes pressure to do well, and thats it. No added pressure of being expected to heal as well.

They might not be healing, but they are having to coordinate and manage cooldowns far tighter than a healer ever has, plus keep on top of rotations, and generally manage slightly more complex mechanics. Doing top tier DPS as a DPS is just as hard as it is for a healer and in some respects, more so.

Oh and seriously, how much of this pressure is self inflicted? Worrying about what they might be thinking or saying? You do certainly assume an awful lot. I genuinely don't mean that in any bad way either. I hold myself to far higher standards than anyone in my group and it's really quite amusing looking back at how annoyed I sometimes get with myself when I drop the ball during progression.

[Feyona]

Someone said to me recently, that to come on these forums I may be dealing with kids like in a school playground, and so trying to have intelligent conversations may be a complete waste of time and after seeing some of the silly animated posts and posters Im forced to agree. Not saying its you or even most people here just one or two. And to those all I have to say is "Grow up". Nothing is self inflicted There are expectations of put on healers to dps. Im not making it up. I dps as well I know the difference. No one is saying your forced to play a dps class with a complex rotation if you dont like it, healers are being forced or excluded. You at least have a choice to play dps not healer as well. Dps as healer is more potentially stressful. It does cause wipes and if you dont heal you get the blame for not doing your job. I dont assume what people think either and everything that Ive said here Ive either experienced or someone I know has. And if you really cant 'see' the pressure put on healers to dps read some of the posts here should give you some indication of people 's expectations or force. Theres also a bit of a nasty streak in some people here that alot of people who may be trying to learn the game are at the mercy of. Not being able to empathize with other's experience is a sign of immaturity. Just waiting for abarrage of childish name calling next

[NocturniaUzuki]

So far, I haven't seen any of these issues, though I haven't reached end-game content yet. As a healer, if I let someone die when I could have prevented it, I sometimes get anger directed at me (for good reason). My general rule of thumb is to DPS as much as I can with consideration given to potentialities. As a healer, I'm on the hook if I'm not ready to heal reactively within, say, 0.5 seconds. That's about how long it takes to cancel my DPS spell, turn off CS, and use an instant heal if necessary. So even if a DPS takes a stupid hit and needs healing, I can react in time. All one really needs to take into account is the 5 second recast time on CS. If you turn it on, you're locked out of healing properly for 5 seconds. That's why I cast HoT/Shield on the tank or group before I switch into it. I'm acting on the belief that nothing dangerous is going to happen within 5 seconds. If something dangerous does happen and I'm stuck in CS, then it's my fault if someone dies as a result.

I typically don't DPS at all in raids, except sometimes during DPS checks as necessary. If I have a really good party, I might consider it, but since most raids are not a DPS race, and just a game of careful patience, I don't think the extra clear speed is worth wiping when one player or the whole party suddenly takes a ton of unexpected damage and you either JUST turned on CS (and they end up dying due to the 5 second recast time) or end up running out of MP because of all the DPSing you had done. Maybe this only happens once in every 10 clears, but it's still your fault if you aren't prepared for that scenario by being out of CS and/or conserving MP.