Forcing players to pay to keep housing is unfair.

[CosmicKirby]

Again: it is not a valid argument to claim that it's not worth fixing something because few people use or like the current crap system. That is why it needs to be fixed.

Aside from that, fully fleshed out secondary systems are what maintain subscribers. A housing system that can engross players for years building unique environments (a la WildStar) is a serious help for player retention.

It's an 'incredibly' valid argument in the business world. Nintendo could have either poured even more money into 'fixing' the Virtual Boy, or they could have cut their losses and stopped supporting it. Guess what they did?

MMORPGs with really good housing, aren't so successful the entire industry tries to emulate them. They all try to emulate WoW. There's a reason for this.

[Zojha]

Nintendo could have either poured even more money into 'fixing' the Virtual Boy, or they could have cut their losses and stopped supporting it. Guess what they did?

I would just like to point out the irony of this statement on the Final Fantasy XIV forums in the context of the history of Final Fantasy XIV.

That is all.

[CosmicKirby]

I would just like to point out the irony of this statement on the Final Fantasy XIV forums in the context of the history of Final Fantasy XIV.

That is all.

And?

Doing what they did was most certainly a heavy risk. A risk companies tend to not pursue. An exception to a trend indicates there's a possibility but not necessarily a good enough chance to make a wise investment in.
It's still a valid point, that a drastic focus on a failing product could just result in not saving the situation. And in context to the line of discussion, would come at the cost of implementing features in this game that are the reason why most people play and enjoy the game.


Also that is not ironic, though humorously coincidental.
If I had said something like, "No company would ever support a failing product." Then that would be ironic.

[Zojha]

And?

Why are you asking for an "and" after the statement of "That's all."?

There is no "and". There's an "end". With E. That's the meaning of "That's all.". That is all there is. I understand you're really insecure and take anyone quoting you as a direct attack, but please, show some reading comprehension.

Sometimes a humorous comment is just a humorous comment.

[CosmicKirby]

Why are you asking for an "and" after the statement of "That's all."?

There is no "and". There's an "end". With E. That's the meaning of "That's all.". That is all there is. I understand you're really insecure and take anyone quoting you as a direct attack, but please, show some reading comprehension.

Sometimes a humorous comment is just a humorous comment.

Adding a 'that's all' is pretty typical of a parting shot you'd see in any passive aggressive conversation you'd have in the real world.
The only other posts I've responded to in this thread was one wherein they questioned if I read something in a condescending way and 'eyerolled'. (Their following post was far more neutral in decorum.) Both of which were obviously meant to be taken in a slightly antagonistic tone, likewise with the underlined part of your post.

If people hold opinions differing from mine, that's great. I legitimately enjoy having conversations like that, me simply responding to the comments isn't indicative of feeling attacked, even if there's clearly some intention within the post. This is entirely separate from having a conversation with a point.

I find it oddly humorous that you tell someone to not read into things like there was an intended insult, and then go on to insult them.

[ToasterMan]

I would just like to point out the irony of this statement on the Final Fantasy XIV forums in the context of the history of Final Fantasy XIV.

That is all.

SE got lucky with it. Just like how Nintendo initially scored with the Wii. Only reason they did it was because a competent developer knew how he could make the game popular, and SE saw a long term investment gain from it. The plan was to emulate WoW and make it a big love letter to everything Final Fantasy. SE wouldn't have done it if they didn't know how to save this game nor if they thought that it wouldn't have resulted in a long term gain. Nintendo knew the Virtual Boy was a failure and they didn't know how to fix it. They didn't see any gain from it so they dropped it.

SE doesn't see the housing issue as a huge deal at the moment. If players REALLY wanted housing so bad, there wouldn't be any open plots on dead servers like Goblin or Zaelra. SE knows this so rather than pour resources into something that they don't even have a plan for, they leave it and instead put resources into projects that they know will work.

[Naunet]

If players REALLY wanted housing so bad, there wouldn't be any open plots on dead servers like Goblin or Zaelra.

Once again trying to use either a server's lack of population or players' reluctance/inability to make use of a really terrible system as evidence that it's not worth improving... That's absurd.

[ToasterMan]

Once again trying to use either a server's lack of population or players' reluctance/inability to make use of a really terrible system as evidence that it's not worth improving... That's absurd.

Oh no I'm not saying that's right at all. I firmly believe that housing should be available no matter what server you're on to everyone. I'm just saying that's how SE probably sees it and they think it isn't an issue at all, when in reality it's a very big flaw that the game has compared to other games.

The only way I think SE is going to get the message is if someone prepares a question explaining the situation and has it presented at a Q&A session. Remember that really great question that was asked about WHM last time? Something like that. It would need to be live so that SE is forced to say something about it.

[Naunet]

The only way I think SE is going to get the message is if someone prepares a question explaining the situation and has it presented at a Q&A session. Remember that really great question that was asked about WHM last time? Something like that. It would need to be live so that SE is forced to say something about it.

I want to do this. D: