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  1. #71
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    Savagelf's Avatar
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    though the form estinien toke did remind me of Legend of dragoon in some ways

    i love seen partner of sort for the dragoon to forge a new path for the spear shakers. the war is over it time forge a new path could the dragoon be the one show the rest isgarde that dragon and isgarders can live in harmony is possible and even work in harmony is also possible. younger dragon love to adventure. Note the younger dragon are about 35 in human years
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  2. #72
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    Note the younger dragon are about 35 in human years
    Yes and BABIES by their defintion. Remember Kahl Myk and his brothers? They're not able to hunt for themself yet - they cant kill a goat and have you do it. What good are they in a fight against a primal? And what are you asking of the dragonmother there? To give a person who slaughtered dragons just a year ago her baby? Like her actual baby?

    I agree that we should move on from the war now - but as I said before: Taking a baby onto adventures, far way from its mom and kin, as the person who killed many of their ancestors might not be the best way.
    Besides: Adding a pet would require a total rework of the job. You cant just add a pet at level 62 without adjusting the normal damage output of the dragoon. So how would that work? A constant damage-debuff on the dragoon while the pet is out? Having a pet would also completly change the way dragoon is played and the skill asked of the player.
    I remind you again about how pissed bards were when they were turned into caster-classes all out of sudden with HW - so now you want to change a melee-class to a pet-class? When it makes little sense lorewise and no sense gameplaywise? And why - because you still want to play FFXI and not FFXIV...
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  3. #73
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    When it makes little sense lorewise and no sense gameplaywise? And why - because you still want to play FFXI and not FFXIV...
    I feel like this line needs to be placed in massive font whenever someone says an idea's better because it's from FFXI (*coughsamuraitankscough*).

    It's one thing to remember the past, but that also requires remembering why it's the past and not the present.
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  4. #74
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    Ririta Rita
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Besides: Adding a pet would require a total rework of the job. You cant just add a pet at level 62 without adjusting the normal damage output of the dragoon. So how would that work? A constant damage-debuff on the dragoon while the pet is out? Having a pet would also completly change the way dragoon is played and the skill asked of the player.
    The only difference is that dragoon's new weaponskills (if any) wouldn't be as strong as other jobs'. The potency per minute will go up in the expansion, there's no reason to change the base.

    As for the gameplay, they just have to be smart and make it target the same things as the dragoon and react to your weaponskills instead of binding everything like the mess that is summoner.
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  5. #75
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    Skadi Felis
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    Just give Dragoons dragon blood to drink, so they can transform themself into dragons.
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  6. #76
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ririta View Post
    The only difference is that dragoon's new weaponskills (if any) wouldn't be as strong as other jobs'. The potency per minute will go up in the expansion, there's no reason to change the base.

    As for the gameplay, they just have to be smart and make it target the same things as the dragoon and react to your weaponskills instead of binding everything like the mess that is summoner.
    Okay, let me rephrase it: You either overhaul the dragoon job completly or give it a little perma-dot in form of a dragon-pet, that you dont have to manage, so that it basically becomes just a decorative element on the screen - I mean, putting it like this the idea has a certain appeal, because that would mean that SB-dragoons can be really bad and we would still see them deal damage, thanks to the pet-AI! (Sadly I'm not sure right now if thats meant sarcastic or not...)
    Might be easier if they just allow us to take minions into fights again...
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  7. #77
    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Just give Dragoons dragon blood to drink, so they can transform themself into dragons.
    Why would a DRG want to transform to a Dragon that would lower DPS when the point is to INCREASE Dps or ad temp healing capability?
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 04-15-2017 at 11:49 PM. Reason: addition

  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Why would a DRG want to transform to a Dragon that would lower DPS when the point is to INCREASE Dps or ad temp healing capability?
    A pet would weaken the Dragoon's power

    But if the Dragoon himself transform to a dragon, he can have access to powerfull breath attacks without sharing his power with a pet. The transformation can hold 45 secounds with 5 minute cool down.
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  9. #79
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Most XI quirks will never spread to rest of series. If XIV kept the old director instead of Yoshida then there was more chance of that, but for jobs he wasn't going to bring any classic jobs like DRG at all, it would've stayed Lancer class.
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  10. #80
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    have a pet would not low the dps or raise it mind you. through expansion the job are get more powerful are they not. for storm blood it only going to increase all jobs.

    the one thing SE isn't doing in ffxiv is pet jobs the complex. It like the devs themselves are to scare to balance out the jobs or aren't willing. it can be frustating if they did job like beast master they got awesome beast that beast masters could command have as pets but no beast master ether
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