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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Oh got the archer brigade in here have we ?? !!



    Yea they already said that Job would have access to new weapons and armor (AF etc)

    Once you get multishot and some of the more advanced archer abilities, you will understand better why ranged AA is not a good option for Archer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Once you get multishot and some of the more advanced archer abilities, you will understand better why ranged AA is not a good option for Archer.
    I have multishot !!, pisses me off when someone acts like a condescending scrote just because he has a class at 50.

    I guess I can talk down to you just because your CNJ isn't 50 huh ?

    Fact is I want archer to have auto-shot, so take your attitude and shove it.
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    So for Archers that want Auto shot.. you really want a slower rate of attack? I find archer to be able to deliver the fastest attacks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    So for Archers that want Auto shot.. you really want a slower rate of attack? I find archer to be able to deliver the fastest attacks...
    Thats true, they are also the highest enmity chasers (it has been nerfed somewhat though) and then cry up when they die from pulling too much aggro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Thats true, they are also the highest enmity chasers (it has been nerfed somewhat though) and then cry up when they die from pulling too much aggro.
    Then wouldn't it be more difficult if Auto shot was implemented? I find it easier the way it is now. I can understand if people wanted Auto Shot, but it would only slow the rate of attack, and that is pretty much all that would change :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    Then wouldn't it be more difficult if Auto shot was implemented? I find it easier the way it is now. I can understand if people wanted Auto Shot, but it would only slow the rate of attack, and that is pretty much all that would change :P
    No it wouldn't be much different, you can only spam so many skills per second and only fire so many auto shots per second.

    In fact from a balancing point of view auto shot is better as it is normal value across all players. (of course this doesn't matter much seeing as SE couldn't balance a paper plate on a table)

    This used to be true. It is not anymore. You're a couple patches behind in your knowledge.
    I was playing with an ARC an hour ago, I was GLD and he would not stop pulling hate, but then I guess it mine and the MRDs fault huh for not being able to keep hate?
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    Last edited by Jinko; 10-23-2011 at 11:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    I was playing with an ARC an hour ago, I was GLD and he would not stop pulling hate, but then I guess it mine and the MRDs fault huh for not being able to keep hate?
    I would imagine so. If you have Intimidate on, Provoke, Taunt, Disorient, Warmonger, Wardrum for Gladiators and most importantly Accomplice one of you should have no trouble holding hate. Hell I remember once for fun I tried to pull hate off a Gladiator on my Marauder, couldn't do it because they kept using Accomplice on me lol.

    Edit: Also the Archer should probably have Out of Sight on at the least, though Chameleon would be good to. Hate management can be a group effort and is often better for it when people do work together to keep it going in the right direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Thats true, they are also the highest enmity chasers (it has been nerfed somewhat though) and then cry up when they die from pulling too much aggro.
    This used to be true. It is not anymore. You're a couple patches behind in your knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    I have multishot !!, pisses me off when someone acts like a condescending scrote just because he has a class at 50.

    I guess I can talk down to you just because your CNJ isn't 50 huh ?

    Fact is I want archer to have auto-shot, so take your attitude and shove it.
    Then where is your multishot achievement on your lodestone and/or xivpads profile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Once you get multishot and some of the more advanced archer abilities, you will understand better why ranged AA is not a good option for Archer.
    Pretty much this.

    Even generic MMOs don't give their ranged classes an auto-shot depending on mechanics.
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