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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitches1974 View Post
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    Wow you can pull up an FAQ/ToS! You're just so great. And in all this, it still not the point of the matter so congratulations on your pointless whiteknighting my friend.
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    "Everyone has something they hold dear, something they never want to lose. That's why they pretend. That's why they hide the truth. And that's why they lie."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylla View Post
    Wow you can pull up an FAQ/ToS! You're just so great. And in all this, it still not the point of the matter so congratulations on your pointless whiteknighting my friend.
    So Im guessing your saying that someone should be able to buy a house on say balmung a very populated server , and cancel their account for a whole year and should be able to maintain their house? I could see this if housing wasnt so hard to get in this game but it is so its not exactly fair that someone who stops playing the game outright to be able to keep their house indefinitely\


    @Stitches1974 haha your counter was to funny haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
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    That is in fact what I'm saying. Because the reality of this is: SE should've done this right the first time around or setup a better system for housing. Tell me something y'all- do you know any game today, that has housing that has such apply to it? I could list a few off top of my head that have done it right and if someone quit they still come back to having their house/apartment, etc. My point, and I've said this earlier when the topic started but I guess people weren't reading and just decide to make it sound like the only people I'm sticking up for are those who already have a house. Which is not the case. And while I know I shouldn't point this out, I'm going to anyway~ Servers like Balmung people sell houses for double what they are worth. A small house can range anywhere from 30mil to 70mil, and we all know, people are going to pay that. Be it your opinion of, "Well their dumb enough to buy it at that price." that their choice sadly and people want a house that much. If they take a break, come back, house is gone, they only get back half that price of the plot, not the crazy price they paid.

    I know most you people aren't going to care or say, "Their fault." but let all just agree on one thing, if SE had done this right the first time or fixed it by now, there wouldn't be all this fuss and stupid crap over housing. I respect both sides of the opinions here but what it all comes down to is this is SE fault and they should be fixing it or doing it right.
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    Last edited by Cylla; 04-14-2017 at 02:01 AM.
    "Everyone has something they hold dear, something they never want to lose. That's why they pretend. That's why they hide the truth. And that's why they lie."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylla View Post
    A small house can range anywhere from 30mil to 70mil, and we all know, people are going to pay that. Be it your opinion of, "Well their dumb enough to buy it at that price." that their choice sadly and people want a house that much. If they take a break, come back, house is gone, they only get back half that price of the plot, not the crazy price they paid.
    If they want a house that bad then they should also know both the pros and cons of owning a house if they willing to pay that much , considering a small house directly from the system only like 5 million. If they don't like how the housing system works why are they buying a house? Like others have said there more buyers then plots so if someone doesn't like how the housing works and doesn't want to deal with the 45 day reclaim there another person in line that wants a house and will be fine with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    If they want a house that bad then they should also know both the pros and cons of owning a house if they willing to pay that much , considering a small house directly from the system only like 5 million. If they don't like how the housing system works why are they buying a house? Like others have said there more buyers then plots so if someone doesn't like how the housing works and doesn't want to deal with the 45 day reclaim there another person in line that wants a house and will be fine with it.
    Thank you, hearing things like "The day I lose my house because I don't get on 45 days is my last day." is absolutely ridiculous to me when the rules are all laid out quite plainly. You can take valid issue with the system all you like but everyone choosing to have a house and then complaining is asinine. You don't need and never needed that house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatron13 View Post
    Thank you, hearing things like "The day I lose my house because I don't get on 45 days is my last day." is absolutely ridiculous to me when the rules are all laid out quite plainly. You can take valid issue with the system all you like but everyone choosing to have a house and then complaining is asinine. You don't need and never needed that house.
    I bought my house when there was no timer implemented also Yoshida himself said that they wont ever implement such a timer since its something from the old days of MMOs and went back on his words because they somehow are not able or willing to change their fault system. So sorry for complaining about something that should not have come and would take the consequences of it if I lose my house.

    Like others have said I am still completely baffled that people are attacking other players because they want a change of this bad system instead of looking at the real culprit that is SE. I mean they straight up lied to us about this.

    There are way enough examples of current MMOs that do it different and may even have less players. We, as the customers, also posted enough solutions to the problem. Heck they could just leave the current system in the old zones for all those people that love these wards and just create the instanced housing in the new Doma zone. They had more than enough time to change it, yet instead they choose to punish their player base and its seems that there are enough people that support this..I mean its not only that you still need to pay your sub even if you take a break, no they also made it so that you need to log in too..

    They could have chosen a timer of 90 days which would mean that someone could take breaks between each patch (and lets remember that Yoshida himself said that breaks are completely alright..). But right now if I want to take of maybe two months (which is really not that long if you play for years) I not only have to pay at least one full month thanks to the short timer..no I also have to remember to log in at least once. So in a way I not only just pay money for something that I am not even using, I also have to find a way to log into the game too. (I mean maybe someone wants just to take a break thanks to some stuff in real life and maybe travel around a bit..its not that easy to then log into the game)

    I mean if this solution would at least be something really effective..but other than maybe after the first round of this timer I barely see open houses on Moogle. Maybe I am always looking at the wrong time but over the last few months I only saw like one big house and maybe a small that where open..which is around the same amount that I saw without a timer. Because even if the houses are all just owned by active players there are not enough houses for everyone, at least on the bigger servers. And even after saying that they will increase the numbers of apartments they did not do that for Balmung and other servers even after they were all sold out..really I am just shocked how they are handling housing...and seeing how we get more and more housing items to craft or as a price from an event..and yet only a small number can even use that..
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    Last edited by Alleo; 04-14-2017 at 06:59 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylla View Post
    Wow you can pull up an FAQ/ToS! You're just so great. And in all this, it still not the point of the matter so congratulations on your pointless whiteknighting my friend.


    white knight
    ˈˌ(h)wīt ˈnīt/
    noun
    a person or thing that comes to someone's aid.

    Who did I aid? I just corrected your inaccurate statement.

    Edit: You're not my friend. I don't know you at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylla View Post
    Wow you can pull up an FAQ/ToS! You're just so great. And in all this, it still not the point of the matter so congratulations on your pointless whiteknighting my friend.
    Why do you have to bring Paladins into this? What did they do to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Why do you have to bring Paladins into this? What did they do to you.
    Okay. That made me laugh.
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