Anyone else think the cap of 900 for tomes should be the future cap?

[Settiesama]

Why are people so insistent that Tomes is the only way to get gear, when there are so many other ways to get it..? Why exactly do you need to have each job in the max ilvl? Are you raiding? Then good going you've entered another way to get the highest level gear. If not, then why exactly do you care? You can easily get slightly lower ilvl and still use the job well.

[bswpayton]

What's stopping you from playing all those jobs? Unless you do Savage, bis is meaningless. Even then, statics typically don't want people bouncing entirely different roles.



Do this and you effectively guarantee people lose incentive significantly earlier. Why keep raiding for 6+ months when you can be bis within the first four weeks. Less if you're a better player.

this is a very different discussion than the other thread 900 scrips currently is like a chest piece basically, this isnt the same thing as asking for no cap at all that would be dum. But 900 is very reasonable, just a weapon alone is 1000 so to level or gear ur healers and tanks which share gear if you got them weapons to would be 3 months. And everyone doesnt do statics to try and raid people where using raid finder doing things with fc members etc, you dont always have to have a static to try and do content.

I wasnt playing when the first floors of alex came out but this time around I will do them in storm blood but it wont be in a static, maybe friends with a common goal but Im not applying for a job this is a video game. But thats beside the point 900 scrips really isnt that crazy considering how much chest piece and pants, as well as weapons cost 3000 alone well close enough to it. The bit of savage I have done has been through pf or with fc members having a static isnt a must it just maybe makes things easier depending on.

[Kaethra]

Do this and you effectively guarantee people lose incentive significantly earlier. Why keep raiding for 6+ months when you can be bis within the first four weeks. Less if you're a better player.

Devs just need to put out longer or more content (it is possible, we have arbitrary limits, I've seen other games release expansion sized content within 6 months, its how EQ1 has 24 expansions).

Playing one day a week is bad design. A week has seven days, playing all seven days in the type of content we want to play should be viable.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

See this is why I find it stupid. Tome gear is casual gear I should be able to get what ever amount of tomes I want. But due to the silly system of the gear being the same Ilvl as raid gear eventually we have these silly limitations. If casual people who are not interested in raiding then Dun Scaith equivalent should be their end game gear. If you are raiding then Raid gear at a higher ilvl than both Dun Scaith equivalent and Scrip gear should be their endgame gear. Yes I know people will disagree but endgame gear should have a challenge behind it be it story raids or Savage.

Also hate the whole get gear wear it for a few weeks then it's replaced. Actually I just hate the whole tome system full stop.

[Inosaska]

Why are people so insistent that Tomes is the only way to get gear, when there are so many other ways to get it..? Why exactly do you need to have each job in the max ilvl? Are you raiding? Then good going you've entered another way to get the highest level gear. If not, then why exactly do you care? You can easily get slightly lower ilvl and still use the job well.

People don't want to work for gear. They want it given to them for little effort. WoW started that trend with there new system for acquiring gear and people want the same thing in this game. It's not about raiding. People want the gear because it looks cool but that's it. It really is that simple. The glamour system is what caused this and nothing more.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

People don't want to work for gear. They want it given to them for little effort. WoW started that trend with there new system for acquiring gear and people want the same thing in this game. It's not about raiding. People want the gear because it looks cool but that's it. It really is that simple. The glamour system is what caused this and nothing more.

If it's just the glamour then give them a non stat equivalent piece bought with MGP. At least PvP got this right.

[Inosaska]

If it's just the glamour then give them a non stat equivalent piece bought with MGP. At least PvP got this right.

If they did that far less people would be raiding and probably unsub as there isn't really anything else to do in the game.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

If they did that far less people would be raiding and probably unsub as there isn't really anything else to do in the game.

Each stage of the raid gear should make it easier to clear the next stage, so no people would still continue raiding. Players should look at a piece of gear and say wow u got those stats not oh that's a lovely pink blouse.

Also I only just got into raiding about 3 weeks before Echo came in. The main thing that put me off was the thought of so much work for such a small stat increase or just being able to gear up early. Now I have started doing it I still couldn't care less about the gear due to the small increase I go for the challenge. Many casuals I speak to say why do raids and get all the stress when I can just wait till things are uncapped. Same with the tomes people gear up one class and then leave till more story/content is uncapped before returning.

[Inosaska]

Each stage of the raid gear should make it easier to clear the next stage, so no people would still continue raiding. Players should look at a piece of gear and say wow u got those stats not oh that's a lovely pink blouse.

I do think gear should get easier to acquire over time so that players with less time to play can experience the content with this catch up system. We all pay the same amount so we should be able to get the gear at some point even if its near the end of the expansions life span.

[bswpayton]

People don't want to work for gear. They want it given to them for little effort. WoW started that trend with there new system for acquiring gear and people want the same thing in this game. It's not about raiding. People want the gear because it looks cool but that's it. It really is that simple. The glamour system is what caused this and nothing more.

I just find it funny how people just lump everyone in a category with everyone I have seen many a player with shire gear like chest and pants but , have alex accessories and maybe an anima weapon or shire weapon are they not raiders. raid doesnt equal gear automatically tomes isnt rng dependent like other gear in this game , so I dont understand the argument here it would simply be an option for those whom want to grind and want every job at max gear level to have that option.

Like I mention earlier for those whom wernt here when hw started prob actually never had to have one of or some of their jobs severally lower gear wise than the others. When I started poetics was all access so every one of my jobs had access to 120 gear I wasnt level 50 and some of my jobs had ilvl 50 gear. Same thing with sixty as soon as I got to 60 on each job lore was an option every job was gona be 230 if anything. And now with time left I can get every job to ilvl 260 because they will all get played including the two new ones, many players dont know what its like to have one job with amazing gear and another in vender trash.