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  1. #181
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    matteoxyz's Avatar
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    Pengi Engi
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    Believe in the cause? Sure. I can't see any reason for the restrictions.

    That said, I abhor the entire Glamour system. It has severely damaged my ability to become properly immersed in the game. There's nothing like seeing some moron bunny-hopping about town in a bikini to make me remember I'm playing a game, and one that is far goofier than I'd like.

    I wonder if SE would consider an option to let us turn OFF other people's Glamours, as far as our personal view is concerned...
    That would be cool. I find it immersion breaking too. Tanking in a sundress isn't believable.
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  2. #182
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    Talraen's Avatar
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    Ryelle Galashin
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterLucie View Post
    I would be very hesitant to say that "I don't get gays. You're so WEIRD. Do you even know what you like??" is voicing a concern. It's belittling, ignorant, and best kept to themselves. There's no calm discussion to be had with a post like that.
    I agree. However, his posts, awful as they have been, have all gotten a lot of likes. Which means there are people who agree with him, but aren't willing to say so.
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  3. #183
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    I agree. However, his posts, awful as they have been, have all gotten a lot of likes. Which means there are people who agree with him, but aren't willing to say so.
    Given the almost homophobic nature of his post I am not surprised that people prefer to hide behind a like instead of voicing their "opinion". You might be right about them being "afraid" of being called out on it, but you know what? It would totally serve them right to hear how disgusting that sort of discriminatory behaviour is. I can feel a little bit of sympathy for those who say "I'd prefer more unique options for races and genders" and would like the items to stay locked for that reason, even though I dont share that opinion.

    To those who are afraid of gays and worry about their manliness being taken away by male characters wearing "femine clothes" there is nothing to say but "You disgust me" - and if they're afraid to speak their homophobic mind, thats a good thing in my book because it shows that being gay is more accepted in this community than homophobia - as it should be.

    Edit: I'm female btw - not gay. And I used to play a male elezen for two years. I was extremly disappointed when I didnt get to wear bunny ears on my male character - you wanna know why? Not because I consider that sexy but because I would have loved to make a hilarious easter-bunny glamour, using the reindeer-suit and the bunny-ears. My male character was allowed to be a reindeer, but not a bunny - that was obviously crossing a line.
    Not everyone wants to dreass their male characters up as little girlies - there are items locked that could be used in many different ways. And those who want to play a more femine male character can already do that - as shown lovely here in this thread! Keep up the good work boys and girls! ;D
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    Last edited by Vidu; 04-11-2017 at 07:15 AM.

  4. #184
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    I'm on team "No Genderlocking Items At All" personally.
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  5. #185
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    JumperX's Avatar
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    Sam West
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by RosaLunaCelestia View Post
    No only boy xD boy or girl want their male character in girl outfit no bother me. If make their male character wear girl outfit or female in a boy oufit. Why not. No bother me to see it . Want people happy
    Just saying. Thanks for clarifying your post. I do believe people should have access to all outfits regardless of the gender because clothing nowadays is just fashion.

    If people say that clothing is important to protect us, then they need to stop playing MMOs and/or video games. To me video games and MMOs is just a way to explore a trend. The pros of a virtual "self*" is than people can have a body of different shapes in an instant . It allows you to be creative.
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  7. #186
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    @ Ikuna are you saying that female characters have lewd outfits and that is ok? That is so wrong. Just because they are showing more legs and skin, as you said, doesn't mean that everybody wants them to look sexually appealing. Some outfits can be sensual without going to the sexual spectrum. It all depends on people culture, customs, traditions, and ideology of each individual according to the rules the parents taught them and what the child(ren) wanted to rebel against, too.
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  8. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    You can find it disgusting all you want but if they ain't speaking out; than they really aren't doing anything wrong. People are entitled to their opinions as you are to yours. If anything, I find their silence to be more of a sign of maturity knowing that by speaking their minds it would be inflammatory. When people like you attack them for their thoughts, you really aren't any better than the homophobics yourself.
    I'm sorry, I might have worded my post a little to strong - english isnt my first language, so sometimes I pick words that dont express 100% what I'm trying to say. So let me try again with less strong words, I hope - because first, I do agree with you that not speaking their opinion and keep it to themself when they know its homophobic and therefor not accepted anymore (which, again, is a good thing in my book - hating someone for what they are shouldnt be accepted) is a good choice.
    Disgusting might have been a bit of a strong word, but my head is killing me right now and doesnt let me think of a better one - I am very accepting of people saying "personally I wouldnt put my male character into a dress", as long as they dont "demand" that no one does that. Personally, I dont like the idea of my female character in the maid outfit, I consider that somewhat "degrading" - but if someone else wants to wear it, cool, go ahead.

    I simply find it difficult though to tolerate intolerance - some of my words might have been spoken in the heat of the moment (and under the influence of a heavy migraine) and I agree with you that a less hostile envorioment would be prefered after all. Homophobia cant be a part of that though.
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  9. #188
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    SpiritMuse's Avatar
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Thought I'd bring my Roe into the conversation.





    This is probably the girliest I've ever made a character look.
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  10. #189
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    Thought I'd bring my Roe into the conversation.
    Can you please hold me? <3
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  11. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    <a whole lot of awesome>
    I just wanted to say that I love you and this post. Rock on.
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