Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[SaitoHikari]

Ok, ty for the explanations. But then how is the instant-hate happening? DX Just don't understand is all. Are they just casting it too close to pull times then? (tanks's almost on top of mobs by the time it goes off. :P). Sorry if my post came off as grumpy, it's just all week I've had Expert roulettes like this, and it's all been SCHs and I dunno what's happening. OnO;

Pretty much, casting any heal right when a tank is pulling is going to rip aggro.

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Please tanks, I know there's some of you out there who want to drop tank stance in the middle of a boss fight to get a little bit of extra DPS in, but if you're losing aggro to a Bard using Quelling Strikes in their opener, you should really just keep your tank stance on. Because the fight will be MUCH slower if the Bard has to hold back for 20+ seconds just so you can get a reasonable lead in aggro again or worse, the Bard dies to a tank buster. Especially when the co-DPS happens to be a caster too.

Don't do it unless you really know what you're actually doing. ESPECIALLY if you don't have Provoke for whatever reason.

(That was one run where I was glad to never get Balance from the Astrologian... Although I am kinda miffed that Bards have such a bad reputation that most Astrologians default to giving cards to literally every other DPS class instead, even if I'm pulling 800+ more DPS than the co-DPS without the cards.)

[Rymm]

Although I am kinda miffed that Bards have such a bad reputation that most Astrologians default to giving cards to literally every other DPS class instead, even if I'm pulling 800+ more DPS than the co-DPS without the cards.

Although I don't main AST, I've been trying to level it up before SB hits and in general I try to bounce the cards between dps, regardless of class (as long as it is an appropriate card for them, ofc.) However if I notice one of them keeps eating aoes or refuses to switch to adds or is just generally bad/lazy, guess who I'm not sharing my toys with anymore! >:3

[Anarnee]

For starters, your post is hilariously written haha gave me a good laugh. Second, I swear this game has an internal system that counts how many times you die in an instance. Whoever had the most deaths always gets the loot. Always. I see it in tons of farm parties. Those that spend the most time dead are the ones who walk away with the bird. Every. Single. Time.
-Slams head on desk-

XD I'm glad that I could share that and give someone a chuckle.

I will be scarred for days...

Blizzard III Fire III Fire III Fire III...

Sometimes it sure seems like that. I never get it, if I feel like I do badly and am carried in a run I don't dare roll on anything. lol I'm glad I didn't personally need the Puff, but I feel like there were many others that deserved it more.

[Silverquick]

XD I'm glad that I could share that and give someone a chuckle.

I will be scarred for days...

It is hilarious I was laughing when I saw it... Bliz III > Fire III > Bliz III > Fire III > Bliz III > Fire III

For those who don't know....
As a BLM if you want to do the lowest damage possible that's how you do it... Each stage of fire builds a stack of fire, each stage of ice builds a stack of ice... but if you do them like that it hoses up and keeps erasing your stacks repeatedly... to watch someone actually do it is staggering.

[Vidu]

I wanted to take some screenshots of my scholar today - the best place for that is ofc the Libary! So I queued up for Gulbal HM (better light in the top floors) and got paired with basically three new people. The warrior had like 5k more HP than me (yes, WITH defiance) and the run went slowly, but steadly.
We wiped once at the last boss because I totally forgot about meteor being a thing - its been AGES that I saw that mechanic... so used to Strix being dead before that - today he still had 40% HP left. The warrior had some real trouble figuring out when to go into which puddle and picked up vul-stacks as if they were eastereggs. They died, I raised, but due to lack of provoke the boss started bouncing between me and the SMN. We killed it though and I went back into the giant halls to take my screens.

...and noticed that both the SMN and the ninja stayed in the dungeon - the ninja even followed me until I promised the both of them that there is nothing left at all in this dungeon anymore and I merely wanted to have nice background for scholar screenshots...

[HyoMinPark]

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I think a lot of tanks out there underestimate the kind of burst damage a good bard can have. More often than not, I tend to rip hate as well, even with Quelling Strikes up.

Though sometimes I do like to play a little game with tanks; see if they can handle my burst on the first boss. If I rip hate then I know they either can't handle my burst, or they just weren't ready for it. XD (I only do this with tanks that are geared. I wouldn't be that big of an ass to an undergeared tank.)

[SaitoHikari]

I think a lot of tanks out there underestimate the kind of burst damage a good bard can have. More often than not, I tend to rip hate as well, even with Quelling Strikes up.

Though sometimes I do like to play a little game with tanks; see if they can handle my burst on the first boss. If I rip hate then I know they either can't handle my burst, or they just weren't ready for it. XD (I only do this with tanks that are geared. I wouldn't be that big of an ass to an undergeared tank.)

Well, that's the thing. I wasn't ripping hate off of this particular tank with my opener. I was catching up to him one minute later into fights where my quelling would still be on CD, which is something else entirely. And purely because he would drop tank stance after like 2 emnity combos at the start and refused to turn it back on even when the other two DPS are literally about to overtake him later. D:

Although I guess if it matters, it may just be a quirk of the tank being a Dark Knight, of which I'm aware their primary DPS rotation doesn't really involve any skills that generate emnity, while it appears that Paladin and Warrior does (though to an extent for the latter, Warriors tell me it's bad to use Butcher's Block combo as off-tank and default to just spamming Storm's Eye combo, which is only barely weaker but constantly reapplies maim/slashing debuff. BUT this is a 4-man dungeon we're talking about here where off-tanks don't exist, so...).

[HyoMinPark]

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They must have been doing something wrong. Granted, DRKs that drop Grit mid-fight usually only hold aggro by just a sliver of enmity. But unless he was undergeared, with a powerful opener, he shouldn't have been losing hate, especially if he was actively Dark Arts-ing his Souleaters and Carve and Spit. I wonder if he Dark Arts+Power Slashed, or if it was just a naked Power Slash. Some DRKs don't understand the boost DA gives Power Slash. So he must have been doing something wrong. O.o

[Wyntir]

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Healer's motto:

"There's a time to take damage. There's a time to deal it. There's a time to ignore all else and do your best to heal it... Then there's a time to laugh while they all BURN."

Lol, your sig reminds me of a costume on ArcheAge called "Doctor Healgood" (doctor/nurse costume depending on gender). The tooltip is as such...

The Hippocritical Oath:
I swear first to always do harm in the face of hostiles:
I will disrespect the pleas of enemies begging for mercy.
I will apply measures to benefit the injured who I deem worthy.
I will remember that a scalpel can be used with sympathy or spite.
I will not be ashamed to offer a slow death to the deserving.
I will never respect the privacy of patients who die in shame.
I will be the hand of Nui on earth, and I will decide who lives and who dies.

[Wyntir]

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Pretty much what the others have said, it doesn't actually generate agro since it's a shield. The only part of it that generates hate is the initial heal. The issue is you probably have an tank that won't wait 3 seconds to let the heal portion hit them before pulling. I generally have tanks that do this so rather than adlo before pulls, I try to do it just at the end of the previous pull. Either way, it allows them to establish initial agro without recieving a heal, if done right.

Then again, I had one tank who I'm pretty sure was just a jerk. At a boss, before pull, I got a 7k crit adlo on him and deployment tactic'd it to the entire group. And he stood there. And stood there. Until it ran out. And then pulled. >_____>