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  1. #31
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Well, the same could be said for all of our gear. It is, in the end, fleeting and ephemeral.
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  2. #32
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul View Post
    Here is an actual dumb question. I just want verification. I haven't ever done the zodiac weapons and finally finished those annoying books on my downtime. Would you recommend melding materia for these even though the stats don't matter anymore or should I skip it and go with the 2 only stats it comes with? I just want finish one and get one for glamour.
    Can't skip, but stat's won't matter at all, I meld whatever is cheap in the market, even parry on healers, you won't actually use the weapon (and can even trade it in for skipping the first step of anima, while unlocking a vendor that has a replica of all zodiac stages) so buy whatever materia to fill the 75 stats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post
    That's slow. When I light farm at 50, I farm Ifrit. I can kill him in under a minute with just about any 60 level class.
    I mean if you hate yourself enough to do 250 ifrit nm runs yeah that is the fastest way to do it, but if you don't want to lose your sanity, 42 tam tara nm runs (21 if bonus) @ 3 mins per run is not bad at all, and can switch with sastasha if sastasha is bonus.
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  3. #33
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    Small Hobbit
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    i started doind anima weapon quest for my main job like around week ago and now i'm at phase two where i need collect 5 Aether Oil and i still need 2 more to complete it.
    its total up to you and how much time you have in fact the relic is one of the best weapons atm but in 2 months are SB comes along so... yes it worth when you can finish it soon and its not worth when you cannot finish it before SB.

    regards hobbit
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  4. #34
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Look up the final design for the weapon. Like how it looks? Get it. Don't? Don't get it.

    It's really just glamour unless you're planning on taking the weapon to speedruns.
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  5. #35
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    TheChemicalCat's Avatar
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    Vector Arbalest
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SmallHobbit View Post
    its total up to you and how much time you have in fact the relic is one of the best weapons atm but in 2 months are SB comes along so... yes it worth when you can finish it soon and its not worth when you cannot finish it before SB.

    regards hobbit
    The thing is the Relic doesn't tend to be BiS until after the content is already done being relevant. hell, has a relic at any stage ever been on-time BiS?
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  6. #36
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChemicalCat View Post
    The thing is the Relic doesn't tend to be BiS until after the content is already done being relevant. hell, has a relic at any stage ever been on-time BiS?
    Not BiS but they used to be the second best weapon in ARR, but in HW SE decided they wanted to make primals relevant so anima would only stay relevant for either a couple weeks or a month or so.
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  7. #37
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    You can't actually skip that step, you have to put 75 materia of SOME sort in there. May as well go with something useful since tier IV materia is dirt cheap these days thanks to beast tribe quests.
    Fffff, wish I had known about that step before I dumped all my tier 1 materia into combining cuz it all felt like garbage anyway...

    Do the stats normalize again at some point after that, or are you stuck with whatever you dump into the weapon for some time? Ignoring the part where the weapon might be useless regardless or I might have something better by the time I get to that or whatever. I don't exactly play ideally/optimally anyway, might enjoy my time at least trying to make it decent. Although the massive time/resource dumps make it sound like I don't want to do this for every job asap...
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  8. #38
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    Small Hobbit
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TheChemicalCat View Post
    The thing is the Relic doesn't tend to be BiS until after the content is already done being relevant. hell, has a relic at any stage ever been on-time BiS?
    i didnt say anything about BiS, but atm is relic one of the best BiS filler since you can set the stats how you like and to your needs and it has slightly more off stats are savage version.

    Diadem weapon are for sure better, but to obtain it is bound to a lot of RNG luck, for the right class and with some good stats.

    regards hobbit
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  9. #39
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Fffff, wish I had known about that step before I dumped all my tier 1 materia into combining cuz it all felt like garbage anyway...Do the stats normalize again at some point after that, or are you stuck with whatever you dump into the weapon for some time? Ignoring the part where the weapon might be useless regardless or I might have something better by the time I get to that or whatever. I don't exactly play ideally/optimally anyway, might enjoy my time at least trying to make it decent. Although the massive time/resource dumps make it sound like I don't want to do this for every job asap...
    The stats stay like that until you choose to change them around (you can do that at any point, I believe - but you will need new materia and alexandrites for that) - the whole point of the relic was that you get to choose your own stats, so "normal" stats for a relic dont exists.
    The old ARR-relics are really "useless" as weapons though by now - a fully upgraded Zeta might last you til you reach The Vault, but they're mostly worth it for glamour. As soon as you get your Zeta-weapon you can buy replicas from Drake without stats at all, but well, with the look ofc.

    On how to farm light... sure, Sastasha, TamTara and Ifrit are doing the trick, but my point was more: If you are already doing the level 50 or low level roulette anyways, you might aswell take your relic-weapon with you to get some extra-light.
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  10. #40
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    The old ARR-relics are really "useless" as weapons though by now - a fully upgraded Zeta might last you til you reach The Vault, but they're mostly worth it for glamour. As soon as you get your Zeta-weapon you can buy replicas from Drake without stats at all, but well, with the look ofc.
    Really depends on how one plays the game, no? I've been getting through ARR content for over a year now, vaguely on approach to HW, but I could still content myself with plenty to do before then. So, for me, the relics might be a nice little thing to mess around with. Maybe not for every job, though... that does sound a bit too tedious.
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