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  1. #8711
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    So I had my first bad moment in duty finder. I finally got to lvl 60, and the whole time I have only done bare minimum dungeon runs etc because I'm just getting thru it as fast as possible so like just running whatever I have to once. I got to final steps of faith and got akh morn symbol on me and I didn't know what to do so I died, and everyone was like "You're lvl 60 its a basic stack icon.." And I'm like i haven't seen that icon yet and apologized. And got totally bashed by everyone. Ok nice way to treat new players guys. :/ It happens I guess, just kinda embarrassed.
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  2. #8712
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mixae View Post
    Ok nice way to treat new players guys. :/ It happens I guess, just kinda embarrassed.
    I'm sorry to hear that - and have to admit that a lot of us people who are spending way to much time in the game are getting easly annoyed by someone who went through 100hours+ of gameplay and still doesnt understand basic stuff. We all tend to forget that those people might not have as much experience as we expect... best way to prevent that is probably to be pro-active - and ask for advice/reminder at the start of each duty until you've fully grasped the concepts again
    Because while I'm sorry this happend to you - at level 60 you cant really be considered a "new player" anymore - specially when a lot of mechanics are repeated again and again and again and people "rightfully" expect everyone to bring a certain, basic knowledge to the table - much like knowing your rotation, dodging AoEs and what gear to use
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  3. #8713
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    Ama_Hamada's Avatar
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    Ama Hamada
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Yesterday my 2 friends had a leveling DF with a SCH and a BLM.

    SCH was always in cleric stance casting nothing but heals.
    The BLM was spamming Scathe with blizzard spells.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mixae View Post
    So I had my first bad moment in duty finder. I finally got to lvl 60, and the whole time I have only done bare minimum dungeon runs etc because I'm just getting thru it as fast as possible so like just running whatever I have to once. I got to final steps of faith and got akh morn symbol on me and I didn't know what to do so I died, and everyone was like "You're lvl 60 its a basic stack icon.." And I'm like i haven't seen that icon yet and apologized. And got totally bashed by everyone. Ok nice way to treat new players guys. :/ It happens I guess, just kinda embarrassed.
    I know it was not right, esp getting worse after explaining you where new, but the reason they reacted like that is because that icon is everywhere in raids. It is. I even think it is in ARF too, I do not remember all the places where that stack icon exists but I thought I explained why they said that.
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 04-04-2017 at 08:47 AM.

  4. #8714
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    True I just never saw that thing before >.<
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  5. #8715
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    Cassandra Solidor
    World
    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mixae View Post
    So I had my first bad moment in duty finder. I finally got to lvl 60, and the whole time I have only done bare minimum dungeon runs etc because I'm just getting thru it as fast as possible so like just running whatever I have to once. I got to final steps of faith and got akh morn symbol on me and I didn't know what to do so I died, and everyone was like "You're lvl 60 its a basic stack icon.." And I'm like i haven't seen that icon yet and apologized. And got totally bashed by everyone. Ok nice way to treat new players guys. :/ It happens I guess, just kinda embarrassed.
    Try not to think about it, hun. I know that's easier to say, but even the best of us have had those moments. Some people just have no patience and forget not everyone has reached the point they have yet, be it in progression or experience with certain mechanics. If you're ever unsure of a fight, I highly suggest looking up a guide or even just asking in ask if there's anything you should know.
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  6. #8716
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    Alien_Gamer's Avatar
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    Cynehild Westknight
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 96
    It is a semi common mechanic in later trials and raids but its not a common one in dungeons. The first time I saw it was in Final Steps, long after I reached 60. Its very easy to hit 60 without encountering that mechanic or many others and getting upset with someone for not seeing it or trying to blame them for not knowing it is kinda sad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    I know it was not right, esp getting worse after explaining you where new, but the reason they reacted like that is because that icon is everywhere in raids. It is. I even think it is in ARF too, I do not remember all the places where that stack icon exists but I thought I explained why they said that.
    If you know its not right, don't try to rationalize it. Simply put, its easy to avoid raids in this game because so few are required and a lot of people avoid raids because of this mentality that people should know mechanics because they're everywhere regardless if they're new to doing it or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Because while I'm sorry this happend to you - at level 60 you cant really be considered a "new player" anymore - specially when a lot of mechanics are repeated again and again and again and people "rightfully" expect everyone to bring a certain, basic knowledge to the table - much like knowing your rotation, dodging AoEs and what gear to use
    This is wrong. Whether or not you choose to designate someone as new has no correlation to their experience and how they leveled up or what mechanics they've seen. If someone is new to the fight and hasn't seen the mechanics before then they're new to it. Getting upset and making excuses for why you have a right to be upset isn't a very good attitude to have. Instead of blaming the person for being new, how about trying to help? Or if thats too much, just refrain from trying to make them feel bad simply because they haven't done all the content?


    Quote Originally Posted by Mixae View Post
    Bad stuff
    I'm sorry you went through that. Sometimes players can be shockingly ignorant and unhelpful. You didn't do anything to be embarrased about, everyone is new to things at some point.
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  7. #8717
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    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    So I go to do my Mentor roulette!

    Its Titan Extreme. Of course I groan at this. ;; I know the fight, but I don't feel like I'm good enough to teach a whole group of newbies. Whatever. I queued for mentor roulette, I knew what I was getting into, was hoping for something a little easier, but that doesn't mean I won't do my best.

    We hop into the fight and we get him to 50% before the first wipe, there is a tank there that knows it well, a mentor too, and he takes control and starts giving constructive criticism, thank goodness, it made me less nervous, and so I point out a few important things too.

    A few wipes later we notice one of the other mentors, a MCH (with the title "Mentor of mentors"...) is AFKing...

    We kick him and get a BLM that is WAAAAAAY better, and we start making progress again.

    I ended up dying in the final go and the BLM and the MT PLD and the OT PLD end up taking us to a victory.

    It was messy! But we got few people their clear~ ^^

    Thank you so much, especially to the PLD (C.K.) and the BLM (S.M.), you guys were stellar and patient, I know that you were there for the newbies >>; but haha you really helped me too. It was a really nice experience.
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    Last edited by Anarnee; 04-04-2017 at 02:02 PM.

  8. #8718
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Ramuh HM. The DPS are 1 BRD, 2 BLMs, and 1 SMN. Guess what would be helpful here?

    Foe Requiem? Yup! Now guess if the BRD ever sang a single note throughout that entire fight?

    No? Also yup! They completely ignored me when I, as a BLM, asked for it.

    "2 BLMs, a SMN, ok then, foe requiem is clearly worthless", I wrote, irritated at the lack of response and feeling the need to vent with sarcasm.

    "stop complaining", the newbie WHM then wrote.

    So if you've ever wondered why we can't have nice things? Now you know!
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  9. #8719
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    Sammix87's Avatar
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    Fina Kisne
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    Ran the Vault in levelling roulette last night to get my AST to 60, got in a group with a DRG, a BRD and DRK. DRK was the only good player....

    The BRD (the class I main) refused to put on Wanderers Minuet to buff his dps because "I'm better like this" - he wanted to move quickly but never moved quite at the right moment and took damage off several AoE's.

    The DRG stood on and ate every AoE that was possible and in the end boss he thought it would be helpful to run and stand next to me when we were chained together. Joke was on him when I survived like a boss and he died, I raised him but I think he got the message when the DRK /facepalm'd him.

    Following this, I got in Battle in the Big Keep with a fellow AST. We both had the same sect on so I switched....sadly the other AST also did the same so I switch back and, I kid you not, other AST did the same so we both end up with Noct Sect on as the fight starts. Yay. Luckily as we move to the next boss I manage to switch to Dir before tank runs in. I then end up healing the trial because apparently AST with Noct is a dps....he didn't heal once and spend 90% of the fight dpsing the boss. He didn't even attack the chain....
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    Last edited by Sammix87; 04-04-2017 at 10:04 PM. Reason: Limit

  10. #8720
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    Genis94's Avatar
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    Akira Shimotsuki
    World
    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I had a vault run a while ago where our MNK seemed to not know how to play his class at all, so as a MNK main (I was AST at the time) I offered him some advice. His response "Better kick me then". I tried to politely talk him down, but then he ran all the way to the entrance of the dungeon, then left the group.
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