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    Maybe they thought it would affect all healing they received, rather than put out? Still pretty silly, but maybe a possible explanation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    90% of people don't even have anything melded.
    I have to plead guilty on this one. You can easily go through the whole story up to this point without slotting a single materia. I just beat Soul of the Creator Normal for the first time tonight, and still don't have any materia. I have no idea what sort of gear check Extreme eikons or Alex Savage requires, but up to the point I'm currently at, materia is basically a joke and not factored into the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    Maybe they thought it would affect all healing they received, rather than put out? Still pretty silly, but maybe a possible explanation.



    I have to plead guilty on this one. You can easily go through the whole story up to this point without slotting a single materia. I just beat Soul of the Creator Normal for the first time tonight, and still don't have any materia. I have no idea what sort of gear check Extreme eikons or Alex Savage requires, but up to the point I'm currently at, materia is basically a joke and not factored into the game.
    Agreed. The content in this game has rendered materia to min-max status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Agreed. The content in this game has rendered materia to min-max status.
    Even if it's not required, it's pretty silly not to meld since npcs can now do it for you. Melding IVs is super cheap and provides a significant boost to your secondaries. There's really no good reason not to meld at least IVs. Being able to kill stuff faster, regardless of content, is never a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Even if it's not required, it's pretty silly not to meld since npcs can now do it for you. Melding IVs is super cheap and provides a significant boost to your secondaries. There's really no good reason not to meld at least IVs. Being able to kill stuff faster, regardless of content, is never a bad thing.
    doesn't really matter how cheap it is. gear is all just throw away junk...

    why meld my 260 body when in a couple of weeks it'll be 270?
    why bother melding that when 4.0 is around the corner?
    i'm already 40 ilevels above the content so why bother with materia..

    there's your reasons people don't bother melding stuff because there's just no point..
    food and meds are pretty much exactly the same... nothing lasts long enough to make it worth investing in even a little bit.

    if gear lasted and wasn't replaced every single patch i'd blow millions of gill trying to squeeze every single point of stats I could onto it. but when it just gets tossed who cares...

    it's why people don't even look at the stats. just grab any piece that's higher ilevel and carry on... augmented shire bracelets or proto ultima.. grab the ultima even if there worse just because then I can use my coin to augment a left side instead of a right....

    As for the blm melding mind I unno. maybe they play smn and use it to bolster sustain or phykik when they solo with titan........ who knows....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    As for the blm melding mind I unno. maybe they play smn and use it to bolster sustain
    Sustain is a straight 8% heal per tick, it doesn't scale off Mind, only your current summon's HP cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    doesn't really matter how cheap it is. gear is all just throw away junk...

    why meld my 260 body when in a couple of weeks it'll be 270?
    why bother melding that when 4.0 is around the corner?i'm already 40 ilevels above the content so why bother with materia..

    there's your reasons people don't bother melding stuff because there's just no point..
    food and meds are pretty much exactly the same... nothing lasts long enough to make it worth investing in even a little bit.

    if gear lasted and wasn't replaced every single patch i'd blow millions of gill trying to squeeze every single point of stats I could onto it. but when it just gets tossed who cares...

    it's why people don't even look at the stats. just grab any piece that's higher ilevel and carry on... augmented shire bracelets or proto ultima.. grab the ultima even if there worse just because then I can use my coin to augment a left side instead of a right....

    As for the blm melding mind I unno. maybe they play smn and use it to bolster sustain or phykik when they solo with titan........ who knows....
    Maybe it is just me but killing stuff faster or healing more so you can dps more, is worth 1-2k per meld using IVs at least. Not melding at all is just lazyness or they plan to do an upgrade in a few days (not weeks) also not melding > melds that do nothing to your job (like stated in the post above mine) since it reflects not experienced.

    Also melding and food is very important when your doing stuff in likes of salvage. My friend noticed the difference of not melding in 8 slots i think it was? off doing the a12s dummy from upgrading those slots and wanted to see if there was an observable difference.

    With that said, even now, your main job should have V materia in it, one you use the most
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    Also melding and food is very important when your doing stuff in likes of salvage. My friend noticed the difference of not melding in 8 slots i think it was? off doing the a12s dummy from upgrading those slots and wanted to see if there was an observable difference.

    With that said, even now, your main job should have V materia in it, one you use the most
    t5s on your main job:- some of the stronger t5s are still 150k ish so to fully meld ya main job with it is a good couple of million gils. for something you're just gonna toss /upgrade in a couple of weeks it's just not worth it. this is why most people don't even bother melding..

    even when you can get t5 materia free. the 150k is more valuable to you than a melded piece of junk

    its the same reason people don't really look at stats and just go for the highest ilevel piece. because its just temporary anyway and once again it's 30-40 ilevels above virtually all content it really doesn't matter if the stats aren't optimal.....

    it's been said a lot by a lot of players that if gear actually felt valuable people would actually be a lot more willing to invest in it....
    if the rewards from savage content actually had any value then more people would try savage.. where again it's been said so many times. why bother with savage when the rewards are just gonna be junk or there'll be easier alternatives. maybe not quite as good secondaries but goes back to the first point of who cares....

    all reasons why people don't bother melding stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    t5s on your main job:- some of the stronger t5s are still 150k ish so to fully meld ya main job with it is a good couple of million gils. for something you're just gonna toss /upgrade in a couple of weeks it's just not worth it. this is why most people don't even bother melding..
    even when you can get t5 materia free. the 150k is more valuable to you than a melded piece of junk

    its the same reason people don't really look at stats and just go for the highest ilevel piece. because its just temporary anyway and once again it's 30-40 ilevels above virtually all content it really doesn't matter if the stats aren't optimal.....

    it's been said a lot by a lot of players that if gear actually felt valuable people would actually be a lot more willing to invest in it....
    if the rewards from savage content actually had any value then more people would try savage.. where again it's been said so many times. why bother with savage when the rewards are just gonna be junk or there'll be easier alternatives. maybe not quite as good secondaries but goes back to the first point of who cares....

    all reasons why people don't bother melding stuff.
    say whaaa? it is 30k-50k here...
    is your economy just hugely inflated?
    Only thing I seen 150k recently is spiked elemental materia

    My friend has 2 jobs of pure V materia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    ....for something you're just gonna toss /upgrade in a couple of weeks it's just not worth it. this is why most people don't even bother melding......
    All gears in this game are ongoing being replaced in a couple of weeks.
    Just meld IV even III if you need to save gil. ^^; Empty slots is really a waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    doesn't really matter how cheap it is. gear is all just throw away junk...

    why meld my 260 body when in a couple of weeks it'll be 270?
    why bother melding that when 4.0 is around the corner?
    i'm already 40 ilevels above the content so why bother with materia..

    there's your reasons people don't bother melding stuff because there's just no point..
    food and meds are pretty much exactly the same... nothing lasts long enough to make it worth investing in even a little bit.

    if gear lasted and wasn't replaced every single patch i'd blow millions of gill trying to squeeze every single point of stats I could onto it. but when it just gets tossed who cares...

    it's why people don't even look at the stats. just grab any piece that's higher ilevel and carry on... augmented shire bracelets or proto ultima.. grab the ultima even if there worse just because then I can use my coin to augment a left side instead of a right....

    As for the blm melding mind I unno. maybe they play smn and use it to bolster sustain or phykik when they solo with titan........ who knows....
    This half-ass way of thinking and playing is part of the problem.

    Pure laziness.
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