As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[Feyona]

It's more the fact that that, over the past 50 pages, it's been amply demonstrated that the only position you'll support, agree with, or respond favorably to is one that is 100% in line with your own. So it's really no use responding to you at this point because you keep inciting circular argument for....what? What is your goal here? What are you trying to accomplish? As noted, many times, you selectively quote opposing points and ignore the moderate views that many people have advocated.

At this point I'm honestly not sure whether you're a very dedicated troll, or just extremely stubborn ESL who doesn't quite understand what is being said.

That is not actually true I have resonded to most people but if I dont agree I will say so. And why do you think its just me that does this. When have I ever seen a post that favours my views from you?

[Feyona]

What the... Me ? In particulary ? AGAIN ?! <_<

It's very hard to resist at your baits honestly. But you are totally crazy,



Yeah, right. Can you prove it ? In which category should I put your arrogance also ?

I dont think I have insulted you at all but you carry on with this barrage of attacks on me. As for me having personality problems have you tried anger management? There Im trying to help you now does it feel helpful? But do show me proof that Ive lied. Just for the record your hypocritical because you admit you attack me then say I play a victim? Arnt I a victim of your i nsults? And yet you are the one acting crazily by your barrage of attack with no justication for it at all.

[CreinCrein]

Okay so I main scholar and I don't see why people think dpsing has such an insurmountable skill gap, it's pretty soft even during progression. Even during our week one clears where people were dropping like flies there was room, is there really any excuse? You can literally have only dots rolling and hit the 80th. There are more holes in damage than there is Swiss cheese

[bounddreamer]

That is not actually true I have resonded to most people but if I dont agree I will say so. And why do you think its just me that does this. When have I ever seen a post that favours my views from you?

If you're advocating that healers are pure healers and should never dps, you're not going to see me supporting that position. And that is actually the entire basis of this thread - looking at healer dps in another light, in support of healer dps.

As I've previously stated, you are, and have been, ignoring any posts by me and others that clearly state whether a healer can or even should dps is purely situational.

We have nothing further to learn from each other. This horse has been flogged beyond death into absurdity.

[Feyona]

If you're advocating that healers are pure healers and should never dps, you're not going to see me supporting that position. And that is actually the entire basis of this thread - looking at healer dps in another light, in support of healer dps.

As I've previously stated, you are, and have been, ignoring any posts by me and others that clearly state whether a healer can or even should dps is purely situational.

We have nothing further to learn from each other. This horse has been flogged beyond death into absurdity.

I have never said that I support either view in fact called for choice, so everyone can enjiy themseves

[Stormbad]

I find it interesting that some of you act like people who don't main a healer, their opinions shouldn't count. I was a WHM main from BCOB and SCOB and cleared all content at the time with WHM, then equally with my DPS and Tank. Healing is not an exclusive club, it's just a role, like DPS or Tank.

With that said, I think we can ALL agree that there are room for improvement for every job out there, there are countless threads for them. DPS not playing to their full potential (low dps) or not using AOEs, tanks not using CDs for big pulls or not being conscious of aggro, bards never using songs, ninja goad, the list goes on and on. Healers are not being singled out as the only job for the opportunity to improve.

I'll get a little philosophical here. It all comes down to not wanting to fail. Here's a great quote from Michael Jordan - "I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I can't accept not trying."

One can never find their own boundaries without ever pushing their boundaries. Yes, failure hurts but it's just an opportunity to learn, to tweak and make better, to understand your limits. The fear of failure causes a lot of needing to play "safe." Playing safe is absolutely fine. Dungeons still get cleared, duties still get completed. But you won't ever be the best version of yourself if you never try and accept that failure can happen. Unfortunately we are in an environment that people make very rash and hasty judgements and failure is just not acceptable. So, I can understand that mindset for the fear of being judged or kicked from a duty.

[Sebazy]

I dont see any gaps at all when Im learng a fight, because Im too busy watching mechics abd watching health bars at first.

Thus why I stand by my statement that recording your own gameplay is the single biggest means of improving your level of play. Even if you aren't concerned about DPS, your own recordings will show your faults and failings in beautiful, unflattering and utterly unbiased HD. This 'rubble' can then be used as foundations for a solid and dependable plan on how to improve, it will make you a better healer for it. Once your base line is more inline with where your groups want it to be, you'll find the confidence to throw out dots and save wipes will naturally follow.

Being stubborn and unwilling to listen, learn and adapt is significantly more detrimental to a group than doing little to no DPS.

Oh and to the 'no healer mains here' comment a few pages back, I've got a 4 digit Magelo profile that backs up nearly 18 years of healing experience. I suspect I've cast more heals than you've had hot dinners son

[Feyona]

Okay so I main scholar and I don't see why people think dpsing has such an insurmountable skill gap, it's pretty soft even during progression. Even during our week one clears where people were dropping like flies there was room, is there really any excuse? You can literally have only dots rolling and hit the 80th. There are more holes in damage than there is Swiss cheese

We have already seen posts of people saying they can do it easily. sSome cant though and that was my point at least

[CreinCrein]

Well everyone here acknowledges that other players have aptitude and some don't, but how about instead of trying to fit the square block into the circle hole, then blaming the system you fit the your block into the right spot and play with people that are accepting of your style.

[Feyona]

Thus why I stand by my statement that recording your own gameplay is the single biggest means of improving your level of play.

Being stubborn and unwilling to listen, learn and adapt is significantly more detrimental to a group than doing little to no DPS.

Oh Im not stubborn at all if you are refering to me. Ive learned healer dps as thats what people want of me i do it but even if I watched a hundred videos I wont relax until comfortable with fight actually doing it. And dont want to sound noobish and Im kind of new to playstation and think Ill have to work out how to it may help but maybe not my nerves