Please keep Ser Aymeric's armor exclusive to males

[Belhi]

We finally get it

and not even 2 hours after patch they were already trying to take it from us

Up till now its mostly been give Females exclusive stuff but make mostly if not all Male attire Unisex and when we do get stuff they always always ALWAYS try to get it changed.

You realise there are more Male exclusive sets on the Mogstation now than Female exclusive sets? Ingame the balance swings the other way but SE is working on rebalancing that.

Personally I don't mind. I will be curious at the reaction though if Krile's coat is female only when it is added.

[Shougun]

I feel like it would be cool to see the female and male versions unlocked and bound into one piece of gear as a different way to wear the same materials or something. Like zip pants/shorts, except actually cool :P

So you could wear the swim suit in a feminine fashion (would probably look like cross dressing on a male but w.e), and the masculine fashion which would probably actually look normal on females. Females cheat. haha. Anyway this could open up opportunities where besides people getting to wear the style they think is nice on the ones we already have, it also could let SE design two versions of gear (slight variations at least) and give both to the players, so if they ever get two really well liked designs and have to stick to one.. why not both?

Buttoned up shirt with leather studding around, another unbutton and a nice scarf or something. Obviously sometimes it would yell female/male but in this sort of method they could just make two versions to SOME gear they want to, I'm not suggesting every piece of item has a variation.

Any item that is male because it yells masculine style add a feminine style and unlock both, any item that could easily and logical be worn by both just remove the restriction, and in the future when SE wants they can add neat variations to a an armor they liked. I'm not sure how long it takes to make sure the breast and stuff all fit properly in gear though, so I don't know how much extra work I just suggested lol XD.

In general I guess I don't really care for the gender restrictions even though I have no intention of putting on a dress, although if they did a FFVII fan service event I might a short while for the giggles.

You realise there are more Male exclusive sets on the Mogstation now than Female exclusive sets? Ingame the balance swings the other way but SE is working on rebalancing that.

Omg its the blue tax! If you want exclusive gear you have to pay real currency~! lol <3.

[Belhi]

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I was just pointing out that the imbalance has swung the other way in regards to the Mogstation. As I said, I am not really bothered. I have plenty of glamour options to pick balanced and some of the female only options hold know interest for me. Really I am impartial about availability of designs as long as its reasonably fair.

Actually, that isn't entirely true. I do wish I could get the Cid set but w/e.

I was just pointing out that on the Mogstation favouritism towards female sets isn't really a thing anymore. Do remember, part of this started when the Minfilia set came out as female only.

[BigRed5392]

Not everything has to be available to everybody and pushing everything as 'unisex' just leads to a lot of gear being put forward that looks feminine or androgynous as it is clearly designed to fit female characters first and foremost.

It is why I am so happy that they decided to make gender exclusive versions of the Songbird's attire for the previous seasonal event. The female version was clearly designed for female characters and the male version was clearly designed for male characters.

Female characters already have a huge amount of gender exclusive gear sets. That they're gender exclusive isn't an issue - that there isn't an equal number of gear sets that are male only to compensate is, however.

umm the male songbird set is feminin/androgynous.

[Kacho_Nacho]

I will never understand nor agree with this stance. It's just code for "give people fewer options". My choices for my characters already mean plenty. They have meaning to me, and that's what matters. I don't need the game forcing me into having to choose between things unnecessarily.

I disagree. There are plenty of options in the game already. Having additional gear in the game which is limited to specific races and genders does not take away any of your pre-existing glamor options.

Personally, I think it is a great idea for there to be gear specifically designed to be worn by a specific race and gender. It would allow the art team the opportunity to design equipment specifically tailored for a particular model instead of having to design around the concept of one size fits all. In addition, it just makes sense in Ezorea there would be fashion designers focused on a particular race.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Two silly decisions doesn't amount to one good one. Just remove all the restrictions and let people glamour whatever the hell they want. Who cares if guys run around in dresses?

[Shougun]

:P

It was a joke on a usually sloppily analyzed theory, just look up pink tax. I say sloppy since a lot of prime examples have reasons for at least part of the difference and many times is not a requirement to partake (not forced to buy a product), as well it appears to be a common area that people like to fudge numbers in other uncontrollable factors to exaggerate the difference to be far grander than it is. There are instances of it existing though, and the argument is probably akin to the cash shop for FFXIV - where its not really picking you out for being who you are but what you will pay (no relevance to "you", just your willing wallet), capitalism, and people are willingly taking part or not being the issue, and stopping being the solution but I think that's really as much as the forums really deserve on that topic.. not the place. lol

Just wanted to explain that I understood what you were saying and was attempting to allude to "SE singling out male characters" as a "blue tax", but the "<3 lol" as a joke ender like "hah jk".

Personally used to a lot of female exclusive gear in JRPGs, seems like a thing - but I don't really mind if feasible if they took off the restrictions for everyone. Bra on a highlander male probably looks as silly as a bra on lalafell, or the silly freaking pig suits XD.

[Serilda]

The problem with the diversity-through-limitations idea is that not every female Miqo'te wants to dress like a teenage girl and not every male Roegadyn wants to dress like a hulking knight. Stripping players of the ability to choose a more roguish look on a girl or a classically beautiful look on a boy for no reason reduces the diversity of glamours on display and makes characters look a lot less interesting (I appreciate some items need extensive remodelling and are unrealistic, but hats and gloves?)

I agree that a lot of gear is designed with a very narrow idea of what kind of character should wear it and look good, but I see it as a completely separate issue. The Songbird sets (which aren't at all effeminate by Japanese standards, whatever you personally think about idol singers) were a very good, fair example of how you can make two separate outfits with the same theme look good on the majority of characters. Of course, there were still complaints from some people who would have preferred not to wear a puffy skirt on their tomboy character, which is why I personally support everyone having as many options as physically possible. But I think it would be a shame to cut those who don't mind girly clothes on a boy (or boyish clothes on a girl, if the situation ever reverses) out of the loop just to fight for more masculine gear; I want everyone to have both. I certainly don't enjoy being screwed out of having as many glamour options in-game just because some people get irrationally panicky about men wearing skirts in a game already fully loaded up with skirts wearable by men.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

Since there is a 6 page post about females wanting to be able to wear it I decided to make another post opposing it. Let male characters have something exclusive for a change. Females have so many exclusive sets already. Thanks.

Not only is this thread rather childish in conception, but why is this whole "let male characters have something exclusive for a change" even being argued as a point? What bothers you to the point that a female character would be wearing Ser Aymeric's outfit that you would deliberately want it to be exclusive? Like, really guys? What a joke.

If people were wanting to wear some cool female outfit on a male character you wouldn't catch me going "It's ours, don't let them".

[KokonoeAiyoko]

We do need more gender and race locked gear. Make the racial and gender choice matter more for glamour.

I am being serious, BTW; I feel like we should have more reasons to choose the race we play.

Why? Even in FFXI where races were actually much different in compared to this game, they only had one actual set that was exclusive per race. They had 1 or 2 more variants of that outfit, but they were just recolors which would essentially be the same as our starter gear with dyes.

Racial exclusive armor is a terrible idea for having more motivations to playing your race. You'd be better off asking for more character customization per race.