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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Well, if you compete for a prize and win it, then yes, you are entitled to it.

    if gou don't compete/don't win, then no, you are not entitiled to it.

    That's how competition and life work.
    They are entitiled to getting the prize 1st before anyone else, correct but that doesn't mean they are entitled exclusivity forever and keeping others from getting a chance at it in the future, which is the entitlement most of you are arguing for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai_Lee View Post
    So what you are saying is, if we whine enough, SE would give us another opportunity to get the mounts thru achievements and just give top 100/30 more glamour accessories or outfits?
    They already gave out the mount, it isn't like they will go back and change that.

    My statement illustrated how even though people whined about the minion being exclusive, SE still made an effort to give out an exclusive item.

    And the fact of the matter is despite what Kota wants, SE isn't going to go back that far to make past armor or mounts available to her because they also won't make new rewards for PAST seasons either.

    But like I said, whatever let's her sleep at night ;>

    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    They are entitiled to getting the prize 1st before anyone else, correct but that doesn't mean they are entitled exclusivity forever and keeping others from getting a chance at it in the future, which is the entitlement most of you are arguing for.
    Almost as if you want to allow Athletes to compete for Rio Gold Medals. I'm sure lots of swimmers would like to say they got Rio gold medals while Michael Phelps was still around ;>
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    They already gave out the mount, it isn't like they will go back and change that.

    My statement illustrated how even though people whined about the minion being exclusive, SE still made an effort to give out an exclusive item.

    And the fact of the matter is despite what Kota wants, SE isn't going to go back that far to make past armor or mounts available to her because they also won't make new rewards for PAST seasons either.

    But like I said, whatever let's her sleep at night ;>
    Just an opinion, unless you work at SE and are really yoshi p in disguise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Almost as if you want to allow Athletes to compete for Rio Gold Medals. I'm sure lots of swimmers would like to say they got Rio gold medals while Michael Phelps was still around ;>
    You mean that pie eating contest you won, yeah I'll win that next year but I'll be on the lookout for olympic athletes while playing ffxiv.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    Just an opinion, unless you work at SE and are really yoshi p in disguise.
    Aaaand that's how I know the conversation is over.

    Everything you said was an opinion trying to beg SE for rewards yet you try to dismiss what I say by saying it's an opinion. Hah

    Anyway, just as little closing statement to this thread since you have nothing good to say anymore. SE has made it pretty clear Garo gear and mounts are only out for a limited time. Same with Yokai Watch Gear and mounts. In short words you aren't going to get what you missed as there is precedent for even gear and mounts everyone can get not being available anymore

    To bad so sad.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    Aaaand that's how I know the conversation is over.

    Everything you said was an opinion trying to beg SE for rewards yet you try to dismiss what I say by saying it's an opinion. Hah
    I gave a proposal and some facts to back it up and some opinons/thoughts on the matter on top of that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    And the fact of the matter is despite what Kota wants, SE isn't going to go back that far to make past armor or mounts available to her because they also won't make new rewards for PAST seasons either.

    But like I said, whatever let's her sleep at night ;>
    It isn't a fact so it is an opinion, as you made statements that are not certain as if they were. So yeah it is a fact that what you said was an opinion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    SE has made it pretty clear Garo gear and mounts are only out for a limited time. Same with Yokai Watch Gear and mounts. In short words you aren't going to get what you missed as there is precedent for even gear and mounts everyone can get not being available anymore

    To bad so sad.
    Btw it's not like all of what is already said in the thread tackles most of the topic and it speaks for it's self that my improvements are rock solid. Most people just hyperbole or just say nope with no solid reasoning other then they want to be entitled exclusivity forever because they feel entitled to that for doing it first. That's for SE to decide and why my post is to help bring awareness on the issue but SE probably already have it planned anyway.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    They should allow old and current seasonal pvp rewards to be obtainable by top 100/30/10 vouchers from any season. They could have Solo vouchers and Light Party vouchers and keep the rewards separate to each type of voucher. One reward for one voucher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    So like if in season 4 you get top 100 solo or top 30 light party or top 10 in either you can get any one seasonal reward from any season but only one per voucher from the current season or older.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    Basically a list of rewards that keep getting added too each season and you just use the voucher from top 100/30/10 for whichever one you want in case you don't like the reward for that season and allows people to get what they want from older seasons. Not including achievements, titles, or trophies as they would stay as they are for placement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    Also that would keep people pvping for seasons that they wouldn't have because of rewards they don't like. Better for everyone.
    Opinion

    I don't see fact coming from you. And true fact is SE has made moves to make gear and mounts unavailable after a period of time with Yokai Watch and Garo

    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    Btw it's not like all of what is already said in the thread tackles most of the topic and it speaks for it's self that my improvements are rock solid. Most people just hyperbole or just say nope with no solid reasoning other then they want to be entitled exclusivity forever because they feel entitled to that for doing it first. That's for SE to decide and why my post is to help bring awareness on the issue but SE probably already have it planned anyway.
    Opinion

    Anyway, SE has decided to make it exclusive. The fact they made collaborative events exclusive makes it pretty much guaranteed that competition rewards that are ALREADY exclusive are going to stay exclusive
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    I love you Ava, marry me
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
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    My main post had some proposals and some opinions. So what? Here is some facts if SE made my proposals into facts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    It's still exclusive because of number of top spots and the length of seasons aka time and you still have to get in the top for any season.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    Well, exclusive can be at set at different levels or limits I mean surely you can understand that, it is not a word that is set only to what you are considering as "exclusive". So it would be considered exclusive for top 100/30 regardless of season and that is in fact still "exclusive".
    Fact.
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    I'm not much of a football guy, but let me try using it to make the point clear:

    Super Bowl LI (2017) - The Patriots won. The Falcons did not win. The Patriots get the trophy and players get their SB LI rings.
    The Falcons cannot get SB rings this time around.
    Now if they compete in Super Bowl LII and win, they can get rings.
    But they cannot get Super Bowl LI rings, because they did not win.
    And even if they somehow win Super Bowl LIII after that, they cannot get Super Bowl LI rings, because they did not win LI.

    Is that at all clear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    Here is some facts if SE made my proposals into facts.

    lol ㅋㅋㅋㅋ ははは
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