Umbrites are terrible.

[ManuelBravo]

I still don't get it. Why do people complain that umbrite is hard it's been nerfed. Now it's the sand? Come on now that is going too far. Sand is probably one of the easiest things to get if you know what to do. Here are some tips.


IF YOUR A DOH : Use materials from airship gathering. Makes it SUPER EASY.

You can have retainers farm materials and use those to craft.

If your complain is : Materials are to expensive = ask FC leader for airship access
: I have no FC = Find a friend or FC leader to help you.
: I rather do something else / have no DOH = See below

More of a hassle and painful way;

Do palace of the Dead and hope for RNG for IV elemental materia. Can farm tomes ect and raise other jobs while at it.

Do leves and stop being lazy raise DoH...THEY ARE NOW WAY MORE XP.

Do leves in Heavensward areas trade Amber-incased Vilekins item 1 for 1 sand.

IF after all this people think it's hard....Choose a different path that doesn't involve grinding. Hence Relic is a grind.

If these don't work, buy the materials selling tome based items on the market.

Already on 5th relic here for Sand and umbrite, and I mainly use minimal time on it do to two jobs and school. It's just a matter of how you approach it.

Spoiler if you think this is hard, unless you have Savage done, RUNE Light farming will be a pain.

[Sprinks]

Spoiler if you think this is hard, unless you have Savage done, RUNE Light farming will be a pain.

YEEES! Farming light on relic #2 and it is the WORST! It is making me miss mahatmas... at least I was able to tell what my progress was on each of them. Now I'm just kinda guessing what the intensity of the glowiness is...

[ManuelBravo]

YEEES! Farming light on relic #2 and it is the WORST! It is making me miss mahatmas... at least I was able to tell what my progress was on each of them. Now I'm just kinda guessing what the intensity of the glowiness is...

I just do Lvl 60's and raids mainly seems to go pretty fast 5-6 one rune, farm gear and coins, trade them for GC seals and can work on next relic. If tank Expert and 60 goes by ok just gets boring and almost 10-15 runs for one rune. DPS raids for gear and fast CS. Just a tip if you don't do savage.

[Faliandra]

Already on 5th relic here for Sand and umbrite, and I mainly use minimal time on it do to two jobs and school. It's just a matter of how you approach it.

Im farming light for my 6th relic now and people call me "crazy" and "No lifer" all the time. It happened last night again.

"Omg so many relic, u have no life!!!111"

Wow. Always makes me think "clueless/jealous/lazy much?"

It's actually quite insulting. As for me, I make a bit of gil crafting stuff and I bought tons of IV materia when EVERYONE
ran into the diadem upon release, resulting in the market board being flooded with cheap materia (cos undercutting n stuff...).

And as someone already mentioned,getting encased vilekin w/e from leves is another nice way to get a bunch of sands.

Heck, Ive gotten 6 relics through the umbrite step, 4 of them pre-nerf + changed 3 completed relic's stats pre-nerf (thats even MORE sands).


You could also always get on your Botanist or Miner and turn in collectables for gatherer scribs which then can be exchanged for tokens which again
can be exchanged for sands. Dont have BOT/MIN? Its worth investing a bit of time in. Its kinda tough to accumulate gil in this game without
DoLs/DoHs anyways. And in my case, I can just BUY my sands instead of GRINDING them...so talk about efficient time management.

YEEES! Farming light on relic #2 and it is the WORST! It is making me miss mahatmas... at least I was able to tell what my progress was on each of them. Now I'm just kinda guessing what the intensity of the glowiness is...

Open your party finder, filter your search results by clicking the search button on the upper right side and limit results to "Raids" ->" Fist of the Father (savage)" only.
You should pretty much always find a "a1s light farm" party there. If theres none, make one yourself.
Otherwise...your search filter will stay active for as long as you like,so you can check throughout the day whether theres some farming going on...and once the bonus light window is active,
you will know cos ppl will add "BONUS!!" to their PF description. So if its driving you crazy, check throughout your free time and just go in during bonus.
Bonus means it will give you double the amount of light, resulting in only having to spend half the amount of time farming it.

The tomes you get per clear are also a nice bonus as you can turn them in for gordias accessories which you could use for lvling desynthesis or turning them in at your GC for seals.
This is the beauty of this game, you can almost find a use for EVERYTHING....

[Nixxe]

I feel like a lot of you completely missed the point of the thread in your rush to loudly talk about how easy the step is.

[ManuelBravo]

Im farming light for my 6th relic now and people call me "crazy" and "No lifer" all the time. It happened last night again.

Haters gonna hate. I'm to lazy to fate grind so I do Zodiac grind instead when I can. I get the same remarks, your right DoL is another way, but lets face it most people want it even easier. Judge people who put in the time and later complain that their wep will be obsolete. I should write to the creator of Foamy the Squirrel and have him do a rant on mmo grinding :P

[ManuelBravo]

I feel like a lot of you completely missed the point of the thread in your rush to loudly talk about how easy the step is.

No we got it, just showing both sides of the coin. You have a good point with your example, people are just trying to help you out. After all what good is one perspective if it's only negative? If giving you options, rather then dungeons is hard for you to understand can't help you.

[Lunafreya]

Not that bad anymore, tbh. I've been doing a 3rd relic extremely casually and have about 65 ish umbrite. The sands are taking a little long but that's understandable as i'm still on the unidentified stage of this relic. I already have the 260 step done though and the 230 which means I should get this relic to 270 in a week, maybe two.

[Nixxe]

No we got it, just showing both sides of the coin. You have a good point with your example, people are just trying to help you out. After all what good is one perspective if it's only negative?

If you get it, you shouldn't be talking about how easy the step is in the first place, as it has nothing to do with the thread. You'll note I said nothing about the difficulty of the step and even specifically said my complaint has nothing to do with the rate of acquisition, only that the design of the step is not fun. The "other side of the coin" in this case would be that some people find being required to spam dungeons to death super fun and don't want it to change, not that they think it's super duper easy.

[Faliandra]

Judge people who put in the time and later complain that their wep will be obsolete.

lol,people already knew that the weapon will be obsolete in the end the time they started the quest for it.
I do it because I really am into glamming and glowy bismark/ravana/thordan weapon doesnt always cut it or doesnt always match my glamour ideas.
But the relic does! And the glam will stay and not be obsolete. Plus, it will most likely also give you a headstart on the 4.0 relic just like Zodiacs could be traded in
to skip the fate grind. I do have to ask though....did you mean to say youd rather grind a FULL zodiac relic JUST so you can skip the fate farming??
because...you need to do fates there in the beginning too...to get that 1 drop from each region?
The crystal drop rate got buffed heavily ever since its been released and while i dont like the actual fate grind, its far from being as bad as it used to be.
Sure, there are no more fate farming parties around, I dont rely on those. I have a fairly decently equipped BLM who just NUKES everything so easily,
I dont need parties! I just bring my chocobo,put it on full heal. Sometimes I find myself thinking "Hm. This mob is a bit tougher than the other ones...." before I realize its a BOSS fate xD
Their hp drops more slowly than others but still pretty damn fast.