Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[SeriousxSarcasm]

I had to tank again. As Ninja.
This time it was Hullbreaker HM.
The tank just gave up eventually and stayed in Deliverance.

Their iLevel was lower than mine, but even I can hold aggro as a 256 tank when there are DPS with 270 around.
This guy was just lazy. Or new. Or both.

i gotta ask the obligatory: "But were you using your enmity-reducing skills? :O"

[SilkaN]

i gotta ask the obligatory: "But were you using your enmity-reducing skills? :O"

I can't Shadewalker the tank all the time. (Not that it helps much when he's in Deliverance)

[SeriousxSarcasm]

I can't Shadewalker the tank all the time. (Not that it helps much when he's in Deliverance)

That is not a "yes. I was using them when they were available." :P

So either A) When you tank at a lower ilvl, you are lucky enough to be with DPS that do it properly (use shade walker, use quelling strikes). or B) They are so bad at their Jobs they don't need to use them. C) Maybe you actually can do it, but everyone knows it's often a struggle for the average tank if there's more than a 10 ilvl difference, so this is basically some not-very-subtle bragging about your own tank skills compared to the poor guy in your story.

At the very least I think he should get props for staying in tank stance when he realized he didn't have the gear/skill to stance dance.

[SilkaN]

That is not a "yes. I was using them when they were available." :P

So either A) When you tank at a lower ilvl, you are lucky enough to be with DPS that do it properly (use shade walker, use quelling strikes). or B) They are so bad at their Jobs they don't need to use them. C) Maybe you actually can do it, but everyone knows it's often a struggle for the average tank if there's more than a 10 ilvl difference, so this is basically some not-very-subtle bragging about your own tank skills compared to the poor guy in your story.

At the very least I think he should get props for staying in tank stance when he realized he didn't have the gear/skill to stance dance.

They wouldn't stay in Defiance all the time, sometimes they'd even pull with Deliverance on, I don't know if they were trying to stance dance (which they shouldn't even try with such an ilevel difference) or if they just were generally confused.
Also, it was exactly what I meant. I used Shadewalker all the time, but especially during the periods when it was on cooldown, they'd lose aggro super fast. At the end they stayed in his DPS stance and didn't seem to even try anymore. Not sure if I should give them props for that.

Additionally, I wasn't trying to brag about my tanking skills, I consider myself to be a noob when it comes to tanking so it's more of an "if I can do it, anyone can do it" thing.

[SeriousxSarcasm]

They wouldn't stay in Defiance all the time, sometimes they'd even pull with Deliverance on, I don't know if they were trying to stance dance (which they shouldn't even try with such an ilevel difference) or if they just were generally confused.
Also, it was exactly what I meant. I used Shadewalker all the time, but especially during the periods when it was on cooldown, he'd lose aggro super fast. At the end he stayed in his DPS stance and didn't seem to even try anymore. Not sure if I should give him props for that.

Additionally, I wasn't trying to brag about my tanking skills, I consider myself to be a noob when it comes to tanking so it's more of an "if I can do it, anyone can do it" thing.

Then why not elaborate this all in the first post instead of leaving it up to the imagination? ;3 We aren't mind-readers~ (my apologies for misinterpreting your post - I misread deliverance/defiance).

Hmm, have you looked in the tank forums recently? He might have got some funny ideas from there. :/ They all seem to insist that WAR can hold in DPS stance, no questions. Pull with it all the time and just tell the nay-sayers to gtfo. So yeah, I've noticed a lot of amateurs taking that advice as gospel.

/shrug if you can't hold it anyway, might as well help kill the shite faster? LOL. Maybe I'm just more tolerant because if it gets this bad I can just summon titan-egi and carry on. ^^; I hope you gave him some pointers at least (or a good slap-upside-the-head wake up call), lots of people are just ignorant, not intentionally bad.

[lvlagmarink]

So... I was grinding relic's lights for warrior and got my 10th runes and queuing for various HW trials..

I got myself into nidhogg with 1 or 2 new healers and the WHM dced at our first attempt, we wiped..

On our 2nd attempt, we pressed thru nidhogg until about 20% or so when the AST died from the aoe (hot wings) i think, and the WHM was raising the AST and didnt notice the positional and got cleaved by the fire breath thingy.. With no healers to heal, we were only 4-5 at around 10% or so and one by one the DPS died until there were only me, the MT, and 1 bard who lived.. The MT died, i took aggro.. Akh Morn happens and it took the life of the DPS while I timed my holmgang well and survived thru it, popped equilibrium and thrill after and with my dying HP, I managed to win the battle with only 1261 HP left on my side.. I got 3 commendations for that heroic battle and finished my relic's last runes as well..

[SeriousxSarcasm]

snip I managed to win the battle with only 1261 HP left on my side.. I got 3 commendations for that heroic battle and finished my relic's last runes as well..

Jeebus, O.O talk about down to the wire LOL.

[NaesakiAshwell]

So someone please tell me if I'm weird here or If I've missed some meta I'm not aware of but anyway.

Go into EX roulette with a friend, both of us dps, we end up in Sohm Al.

Anyway the run is going well no issues there but me being curious I like to look at other people's gear.

The White Mage's left side was mostly Piety V were it could fit and her entire right side was all Vitality IV to V materia <--- uhm.... why Vit?

And I honestly don't know if this is still a thing but the Dark Knights entire right side was all Strength V materia? <--- I thought this stopped being a thing?

.___. someone please do tell me if I'm wrong with thinking these a bit of out of the ordinary.

[Pells]

So someone please tell me if I'm weird here or If I've missed some meta I'm not aware of but anyway.

Go into EX roulette with a friend, both of us dps, we end up in Sohm Al.

Anyway the run is going well no issues there but me being curious I like to look at other people's gear.

The White Mage's left side was mostly Piety V were it could fit and her entire right side was all Vitality IV to V materia <--- uhm.... why Vit?

And I honestly don't know if this is still a thing but the Dark Knights entire right side was all Strength V materia? <--- I thought this stopped being a thing?

.___. someone please do tell me if I'm wrong with thinking these a bit of out of the ordinary.

Dunno about the WHM, but for tanks, they get attack power from both STR and VIT equally. VIT also gives hp, so it's preferred over STR.

For the right side you can go fending accessories with STR materia, or striking accessories with VIT materia. At ilvl 270, that would be a choice between 88 VIT + 15 STR, or 78 STR + 15 VIT. Note the higher primary stat on fending accessories.
There are some who would argue that the secondary would outweigh the 10-point difference -if- the fending has parry on it, but that wasn't what you were seeing.

[Fluffya]

For tanks, vitality and strength have the same stat weight. Since vitality is already cap on fending accessories, strength is the way to go.

For the healer, he was probly progressing in Alexander. The extra vitality can help survivability.