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    Citation Envoyé par ErryK Voir le message
    From what Yoshida said at Fanfest, he said they would use the extra power of the PS4 to display more of the game/visible area rather than increase the graphical fidelity/attributes of the game.
    In otherwords, the ps3 dropping will only cater to those who worry about graphics, perfect. Can't wait till they shut the ps4 down to overhaul every vase texture. PS3 was never an excuse, but now that its happening, I'm expecting to see several things, more customization options (because ps3 limitations)Actually being able to ride your airships (because ps3 limitations) or hey! ..... Allowing everyone to buy a damn house, Because you know, ps3 limitations. :/
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    Citation Envoyé par Kurogaea Voir le message
    PS3 was never an excuse, but now that its happening, I'm expecting to see several things, more customization options (because ps3 limitations)Actually being able to ride your airships (because ps3 limitations) or hey! ..... Allowing everyone to buy a damn house, Because you know, ps3 limitations. :/
    Uh... have this city without loading zones and please never bring those subjects again.
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    Citation Envoyé par Ririta Voir le message
    Uh... have this city without loading zones and please never bring those subjects again.
    Loading zone issues are for PS3 only because PS3 is slower, it doesn't slow it down for other systems. And negative, don't try to tell me what not to say, ever.
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    Citation Envoyé par Kurogaea Voir le message
    PS3 was never an excuse, but now that its happening, I'm expecting to see several things
    I understand you're upset but yes blaming the PS3 for quite a few things is a super valid excuse for everything from character creation to UI limitations. You have to realize how absolutely weak the PS3 is. You should take a moment to look at the specs of the over decade old console and compare them to the lowest minimum requirements for the PC version of Stormblood. As Serilda kindly noted earlier, the PS4 version is ahead of the minimum PC requirements, so that isn't much of an issue yet.

    I can appreciate that it must really suck to have to struggle for some to continue playing, but SE has made good on their promise for PS3 support from 1.0 and now it's time to move on.
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    Citation Envoyé par Alerion Voir le message
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    You obviously don't see the sarcasm in my comment. PS3 didn't prevent anything, all it did was take management time. Now that its being removed, they'll have no other excuse other than budget and server related issues. -_-
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    Citation Envoyé par Kurogaea Voir le message
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    See the problem is you're simply factually incorrect. Just because you want it to be true does not mean it is true. PS3 does prevent things.

    -UI elements. Party bonus stat bars had to be hidden in the social tab to allow TP bars for party members. The PS3 couldn't handle this.

    -Character creation. Each character has a set amount of memory allocation, Au Ra reached that cap, it's the reason face and horns are locked together.

    -Zones. Did you know All three major cities used to be seamless? (like the game itself) These days they are all sectioned off into multiple zones. Kugane will not have this issue, and I can bet why.

    So yea, it took more than just management time.
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    Citation Envoyé par Alerion Voir le message
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    So your saying now that its removed we can have all these things and there won't be a problem? I doubt it, but I'll let you keep thinking that.

    Also for the record:

    ~ PS3 didn't need those bars but it would've helped. Not only that it wouldn't bother the PS4 or PC versions, would it?

    ~ Character creation, you think PS3 prevented memory usage to increase locks? Fair enough, though they're not getting rid of PS3 for that, its for graphical purposes, in which case they're not caring about character creation as they would've addressed us ages ago of the reason why.

    ~ Zones? Doubt it, but I'll let you think that till expansion drops, because in that case, I better be able to walk every stormblood area without 5 instances to North South East and West zones.

    Yeah so I'm keeping this one to memory. To me the whole PS3 thing is an excuse and only time tells the most.
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    Citation Envoyé par Kurogaea Voir le message
    Yeah so I'm keeping this one to memory. To me the whole PS3 thing is an excuse and only time tells the most.
    I'm a little confused why people feel outdated tech holding back future additions is far-fetched. Like a healthy dose of skepticism is good, but I don't think it's a blown out of the water statement to say that technology wise the bottom is an anchor when there's a large difference between the top and bottom.
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    Citation Envoyé par Kurogaea Voir le message
    So your saying now that its removed we can have all these things and there won't be a problem? I doubt it, but I'll let you keep thinking that.

    Also for the record:

    ~ PS3 didn't need those bars but it would've helped. Not only that it wouldn't bother the PS4 or PC versions, would it?

    ~ Zones? Doubt it, but I'll let you think that till expansion drops, because in that case, I better be able to walk every stormblood area without 5 instances to North South East and West zones.
    Have you even read the post that you quoted? He literally gave an example of a city (which is also a zone) that wouldn't be sectioned off, likely due to no longer having to deal with the PS3 limitations (Kugane, the city in Stormblood).

    As for those TP bars, they generally apply changes to every version, because Yoshi said that he didn't want differences between versions. That means they couldn't simply have gone with "Ok, let's not add the TP bars to players that are on PS3".
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    Citation Envoyé par Kurogaea
    So your saying now that its removed we can have all these things and there won't be a problem?
    Can? Yes. Will? Depends on them.

    Not only that it wouldn't bother the PS4 or PC versions, would it?
    Yes, it would, and did. Direct quote from Yoshida:

    "For example, if we were to increase the number of UI elements displayed on the screen, problems would start to arise because of PS3’s memory."

    you think PS3 prevented memory usage to increase locks? Fair enough, though they're not getting rid of PS3 for that, its for graphical purposes,
    I don't remember them ever saying it was to improve graphics. I do remember him telling us why Au Ra face and horns were locked together though.

    Zones? Doubt it, but I'll let you think that till expansion drops
    Kugane will be seamless, that's already been said. As for the whole expansion? I doubt that, but not because it's impossible.
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