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    Is there any way to directly contact someone from the Community staff? I would like to see how they feel about this. Like can I contact "Bayohne" and see if their answer has been updated or anything.

    I've been looking but can't find any kind of PM. So dunni, is it possible to contact one directly? Or do I have to be lucky that they might come and post something on the forum?
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    The way it was explained to me by a friend, that all of the info is stored on the clients machine, and just small blocks of data are sent to tell your machine what options to draw, and that is why the PS3 was holding back what could be done as all those options have to be stored in memory for fast access. So while 10 or 10 thousand options make very little to no difference at all in the performance of a typical gaming computer, the console is very restricted because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    Well all I can say is, the initial blame was on the fact that the PS3 held the team back and it would often be used as an excuse. Fair enough, I can probably understand it since it's a weaker console.

    ....now I wonder what excuse they'll bring now that the ps3 support will cease.
    Yoshi P: YOU ALL DIDN'T LOOK FORWARD ENOUGH!

    The Director: Y-Yoshi...that doesn't make se.....

    Yoshi P: *Smacks with rainbow glowstick* LOOK FORWARD TO IIIITTTT!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCharms View Post
    The way it was explained to me by a friend, that all of the info is stored on the clients machine, and just small blocks of data are sent to tell your machine what options to draw, and that is why the PS3 was holding back what could be done as all those options have to be stored in memory for fast access. So while 10 or 10 thousand options make very little to no difference at all in the performance of a typical gaming computer, the console is very restricted because of it.
    Even though the packets of data describing which character options to load are much, much smaller than sending the actual texture/model data over the network, I have always interpreted Yoshida's comments on the subject as meaning that he tries to keep those packets small for network/server reasons as much as anything else. An individual character's data is tiny. A party's data is tiny. But when you're starting to do things like 72-man content or open world content with hundreds of players around you (or go to Ul'dah on Balmung ;p),it is going to start adding up and that same data has to be transferred to every other player on the map too, along with all of the other data about items in your inventory and gear everyone is wearing and spells everyone is casting. Some people are the opposite side of the planet to their datacenter and some regions have poor Internet, even before considering the strain at the server end. I think it's likely that this is what Yoshida worries about.

    (I'm not saying that I support the limitations themselves, but I do think people should avoid getting tunnel vision about PS3 as it will make the disappointment when PS3 support is dropped and the restrictions remain much easier to swallow.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Greetings.



    This is what I talked about, "the point where they connect may end up looking weird". In the character creation the point the face and horn connect never changes. Or have I missunderstood what he meant?
    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Is there any way to directly contact someone from the Community staff? I would like to see how they feel about this. Like can I contact "Bayohne" and see if their answer has been updated or anything.

    I've been looking but can't find any kind of PM. So dunni, is it possible to contact one directly? Or do I have to be lucky that they might come and post something on the forum?
    You quoted him mentioning that they will update us on the matter if there are any changes in your very own post. While I understand your enthusiasm and share the sentiment on behalf of those who would like more variety, even if contacting him directly was an option I believe that was be abusing your position a bit. If an idea is popular enough then it will likely catch their attention sooner or later, if not then you really ought to just sit back and hope for the best. Honestly, in circumstances like this I feel it should be enough that they have not only acknowledged it, but shown it was given significant thought. Pestering them over and over about it likely not only stresses them, but members of the community who have questions that were never addressed before. This has already proven to be an annoyance during recent Q&A sessions where players expressed frustration over repeat questions being asked instead of something new.

    Personally, I'd love to be allowed to create more than 8 characters on a single server, being that it already allowed me to create up to 40 in total. This was never addressed by the Devs but it's so niche a request that I cannot keep pushing it on the community in good conscience either simply in the hopes it is at least seen. So believe me, I understand your frustration, but I think it's best not to keep pressing in this case. It is a matter that would fall under 'Improved Character Customization' anyways, which is something that was partially addressed as of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knahli View Post
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    I simply want to ask and in a way act as a small reminder that this is still pretty big amongs alot of players.
    That quote is from 2015 and we all know that they have worked on alot of stuff since. And as most people know, some things sometimes gets forgotten over time. And I imagine that this topic can be one of those since it's not a high priority, or even a medium. Heck, might not even be an "any priority".

    So sometimes a small reminder might be needed.
    And since you probably read my first post, you should know that I am sorry for bringing this topic back to life. I just want it to be as a reminder for the Devs and asking that without PS3 if there might maybe be a way to increase some data and add more options when it comes to character creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    I simply want to ask and in a way act as a small reminder that this is still pretty big amongs alot of players.
    That quote is from 2015 and we all know that they have worked on alot of stuff since. And as most people know, some things sometimes gets forgotten over time. And I imagine that this topic can be one of those since it's not a high priority, or even a medium. Heck, might not even be an "any priority".

    So sometimes a small reminder might be needed.
    And since you probably read my first post, you should know that I am sorry for bringing this topic back to life. I just want it to be as a reminder for the Devs and that without PS3 there might maybe be a way to increase some data when it comes to character creation.
    No, that's perfectly fair, I Liked your first post after all as I supported your request even if it's not something I personally need. And yes, you're right, it is very possible that it was forgotten and I am by no means suggesting you forget about it and let it die, I just mean that, even if it were possible to contact him directly(and I doubt it is), I feel it just might be in bad taste. Not for your situation alone, but in general. I don't really agree with forcing ideas on to the team and making them read it in any scenario, least of all when it has already been addressed, which is already 'lucky' in it's own right.

    I get the impression from your last paragraph that maybe you saw my post is a bit antagonist or judgemental but that was not the case, I'm sorry if I gave you the impression I was berating either you or your topic. I honestly do hope you get what you're looking for and encourage you to promote it so long as people show interest ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knahli View Post
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    I'm sorry if it came out in a bad manner. I'm dealing with alot of stress and stuff irl. I guess it might've shown in a way or the other. =/ Sorry.

    And I agree with you that contacting someone directly might not be the best way of approach. I just thought that "what can be the harm", kinda.
    Since we've seen this kind of topic from time to time since the HW Benchmark years ago, and I thought that getting an answer sooner than later would be good.
    Then we could leave this topic be for maybe another year or so. -hehe- ^-^'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    I'm sorry if it came out in a bad manner. I'm dealing with alot of stress and stuff irl. I guess it might've shown in a way or the other. =/ Sorry.

    And I agree with you that contacting someone directly might not be the best way of approach. I just thought that "what can be the harm", kinda.
    Since we've seen this kind of topic from time to time since the HW Benchmark years ago, and I thought that getting an answer sooner than later would be good.
    Then we could leave this topic be for maybe another year or so. -hehe- ^-^'

    Oh, nonono! Please don't apologise, haha. You've done nothing wrong at all. I just wanted to make sure I didn't come across badly since I could easily see why it might seem that way, I'm very sorry for the confusion ^^a And I hope things improve for you soon ;

    As for contacting them, my opinion is just that, an opinion! I'm not suggesting that I am right and anyone else might be wrong, I was just sharing my perspective on it but I didn't mean to discourage you in the slightest so please don't back down or anything simply because of anything I said. In the end, it likely doesn't even matter either way as I am skeptical to begin with since I'm sure everyone else would have had a similar idea already. If there is indeed a way, I would imagine suggestions are scrapped unread as that is not the proper procedure I'm sure - but I am just speculating.

    I may have taken things a little off-topic with my original comment now, sorry for the trouble ! ;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knahli View Post
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    Thanks. ^^

    I know that every person has his/her own opinion about everything, so don't worry about that. I didn't take any offense of any kind.
    And yeah, maybe the topic has derailed slightly. So let's end it here since we both agree on there were no harm intended. ^^
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