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  1. #21
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    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Just in case a Rep is looking and wants to report our concerns to the Dev team:
    -Hackers, Cheaters, and Win Traders are not being punished. I get that these players are giving you guys money, SE, but not banning these types of players will only ruin your image in the eSports community and alienate players who aren't using cheats or hacks.
    -You don't really seem to connected with your NA and EU fans. The above complaint being a key example of this...
    -Job Balancing and Adjustments aren't happen frequently enough and the dev team's "Wait and observe for 3 months" attitude is not going to help.
    -PvP is too attached to PvE (Gear, Level, Skills, Unlocking, Job Adjustments leaning more towards PvE's needs)
    -PvP needs to be accessible as soon as you make a new character, no PvE Quests
    -You need to remove PvE gear from PvP completely. I might even suggest removing gear completely from PvP and have it just be cosmetic, like PotD.
    -The PvP modes (Feast and Frontlines) are too different from each other and need separate balancing and adjustments
    -Skill Bloat and too many useless Skills (even more then PvE). You need to separate PvE and PvP skill-kits from each other and cut down on the number of skills each job has.
    -Animations are too big, flashy, and distracting
    -The game is to slow-pace and hard to follow to be entertaining to an audience
    -Objectives and Progression need to be made clearer for both the players and audience
    -DPS and Healers (especially healers) are too durable. All roles need a balance of Healing/Support/Utility, DPS, and Durability. If a job is extremely too proficient in one of these categories, they need to suffer accordingly in the other two.
    -Healer's burst heals are too powerful for a PvP environment.
    -You NEED a dedicated PvP Dev Team separate from PvE's Dev Team. You will stretch yourselves too much if you have to go back and forth between the two and both will suffer from it.
    -Players that aren't communicating via a separate, third-party Voice Chat app need a way to communicate and coordinate. Especially in PuG groups.
    This sums it up pretty well.
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  2. #22
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    Guinevere Jin
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    White Mage Lv 70
    The player base is not large enough for eSport at all, we need about 1000 times more Pvp players first
    Then continue this
    "no cheaters banned no chats still need adjust job balance too less pvp modes alts everywhere" daydreaming
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    Arthur Jin

  3. #23
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    Ama Hamada
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    The biggest problem with PvP becoming an esport is balance.
    Too much burst damage
    too much burst healing
    Not enough sustained healing for SCH (in the current game because of too much burst DPS)
    MCH/BRD> too low sustained damage, its burst then useless.
    PLD> too much stun
    SCH> no CC
    Tanks> takes hits too well to make healing appear OP in this game.
    Lag > I should not be Melee LBed though a wall
    magic LB is too strong when stacking 3 or 4 of them after aoe sleep
    maybe jsut get rid of Lbs? doono
    Healers can't get battle high bonuses.
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 03-17-2017 at 02:40 PM.

  4. #24
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    Guinevere Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    The biggest problem with PvP becoming an esport is balance.
    Too much burst damage
    too much burst healing
    Not enough sustained healing for SCH (in the current game because of too much burst DPS)
    MCH/BRD> too low sustained damage, its burst then useless.
    PLD> too much stun
    SCH> no CC
    Tanks> takes hits too well to make healing appear OP in this game.
    Lag > I should not be Melee LBed though a wall
    magic LB is too strong when stacking 3 or 4 of them after aoe sleep
    maybe jsut get rid of Lbs? doono
    Healers can't get battle high bonuses.
    Watched someone's(can we say the name?) stream last week and he got battle high twice by pushing ppl off as whm lol
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    Arthur Jin

  5. #25
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur_Gwen View Post
    Watched someone's(can we say the name?) stream last week and he got battle high twice by pushing ppl off as whm lol
    I've done that as a pld. I can say without exaggeration that throwing people off cliffs in shatter never stops being funny.
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  6. #26
    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Februs Harrow
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    I've done that as a pld. I can say without exaggeration that throwing people off cliffs in shatter never stops being funny.
    I can second that. I've gotten an instant battle high by throwing four or more people over the edge. Always puts a smile on my face.
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  7. #27
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    It's kinda laughable to me that SE is considering trying to get people interested in watching XIV's PVP while at the same time largely ignoring the concerns of the people that play XIV's PVP. I just can't see it taking off.
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  8. #28
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    Lola Milila
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    Maybe 4.0 will bring something unique for pvp in this game. We just have to see.
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  9. #29
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    Aleister Noir
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 60
    In order to become a serious esport, ffxiv would have to, for starters
    1. Ditch the classic WoW-style gameplay mechanics. Not gonna happen otherwise, because this isn't the year 2005.
    2. Go free to play
    3. Stop catering to its casual playerbase. Sounds cool when you say it that way, but that really means alienate the people who have been giving SE money for the past 4 years.

    I don't think theres any need to continue further. It's not realistic. It's nice that PvP is gradually getting more attention from the dev team, though. And I think thats what hes trying to convey, maybe? E-sport is kind of a buzzword.
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  10. #30
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I'm adding more things to the list! :-D

    Quote Originally Posted by KfLeX View Post
    Maybe 4.0 will bring something unique for pvp in this game. We just have to see.
    The problem isn't uniqueness though, the problem lies with the PvP's core-design-and-gameplay, which I don't think they can do so easily over night and that IF SE and the Dev team are willing to take the necessary steps...

    Quote Originally Posted by Enlial View Post
    It's nice that PvP is gradually getting more attention from the dev team, though. And I think thats what hes trying to convey, maybe? E-sport is kind of a buzzword.
    I don't think so. He talked about how they were looking for sponsors for it and wanting a World Championship, where they first have Country Championships for each country.
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    Last edited by Mimilu; 03-18-2017 at 01:01 AM.

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