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  1. #471
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    If they can only do human hands and feet, then why not nix the rabbit ears as well and just make them a third clan of Elezen? Would probably appeal to more people who want to play as an Elezen without an awkwardly long neck (maybe even push them out of the second most unpopular race spot, since elves tend to be the most played races in games, from what I've heard).
    Elezen and their predecessors Elvaan, while similar were introduced as a proud people strong of arm and faith of their militaristic way of life (almost to the point of arrogant). Bound by their views of honor and duty, so it was with San 'd Oria so it is was Ishgard.

    Viera have been portrayed as guarded, secretive, wise, proud, in tune with nature, and fierce warriors both elegant and deadly. In terms of lore they share more in common with the Seedseers than anyone else. In my head i see them living in the Twelves Wood almost in a pocket dimension destroyed by the calamity now secreted in the West Shroud, inaccessible to all, but for upper echelons of Grindanian forces. However this dose not mean they cannot come from other lands (my theory was made before my own knowledge of Hydaelyn was expanded).

    I have my own additions to the Elezen roster as it is (Half Elezen Hyur+Elezen already supported as possible by in game story lore), and feel Viera can and should stand as it's own race. They could represent the possibility for a more docile or petite build for males and a taller more athletic but still graceful look for females (something terribly handled with Au Ra that could be fixed with simply adding new tribes as options).


    It may just be subtle change, it's ok if not all can appreciate that.

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    I support this. Humanoid races resonate with me more anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Viera have been portrayed as guarded, secretive, wise, proud, in tune with nature, and fierce warriors both elegant and deadly.
    That's kinda describing elves in fantasy fiction. "Post-Tolkien fantasy elves (popularized by the Dungeons & Dragons role-playing game) are often portrayed as being wiser and more beautiful than humans, with sharper senses and perceptions as well. They are said to be gifted in magic, mentally sharp and lovers of nature, art, and song. They are often skilled archers. A hallmark of many fantasy elves is their pointed ears."

    I also only mention making them a third clan for Elezen (or compromise with making them a third clan of Miqo'te who are taller and have longer ears and no tail) because if all that's gonna come of them is rabbit ears and a tail (the latter of which will be hidden beneath just about everything)... why not just give Elezen the same physique as Viera?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    That's what I said. I hope they do a good job. I can't pretend I know the limitations SE has when creating a new race, but we may have to compromise for normal human hands and feet. I am ok with this.
    So what that boils down to is you JUST want the ears. If thats the case, why don't SE just add Viera ears as a glamour option for existing jobs (and maybe a fran hairstyle that could potentially cover the ears), that way you can be a roe or elezen with Viera ears, and look like fran. This would save a hell of a lot of resources, and if you request THIS then you are far more likely to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    So what that boils down to is you JUST want the ears.
    No.
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  6. #476
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    That's kinda describing elves in fantasy fiction. "Post-Tolkien fantasy elves (popularized by the Dungeons & Dragons role-playing game) are often portrayed as being wiser and more beautiful than humans, with sharper senses and perceptions as well. They are said to be gifted in magic, mentally sharp and lovers of nature, art, and song. They are often skilled archers. A hallmark of many fantasy elves is their pointed ears."

    I also only mention making them a third clan for Elezen (or compromise with making them a third clan of Miqo'te who are taller and have longer ears and no tail) because if all that's gonna come of them is rabbit ears and a tail (the latter of which will be hidden beneath just about everything)... why not just give Elezen the same physique as Viera?
    Aye, they do indeed fit the bill as you say, they very much are in place of "post-Tolkien fantasy elves" i would hazard to claim that our current Elezen do not, and as such a Viera race could fill that niche.

    They have been represented as a unique people, with unique beliefs and culture. Why can they not be a race unto themselves? So many times people claimed they wanted more "bestial" races, only to say they didn't want to play them only have them as lore sinks. Unlike that proposal people would play Viera, they shouldn't have to share emotes character model rigging with any of the existing races or for that matter be a sub race to any aswell. Such a thing would only limit additions that could be added to current race selection (more tribes. sub races, expanded character creation/ customization, ect...).

    I do not want Viera with Miqo 'te/ Elezen movement sets/ emotes, i would like them to have not only their own movement to convey their personality but also their own lore not shared with current race options. Again it's about subtlety, the way female Hyur Midlanders run matters to people, he cute playful nature of Miqo 'Te is paramount for others, still there are those that hate the pre-pubescent Midlander male and want to look the part of an adult male human, it's the whole reason i chose Highlander male. Then you have the potato people...

    I will not speak for all, for my own part I want Viera to be as the concept art denotes, as a unique race.

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    I would fantasia to a bunny Senpai asap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    I would fantasia to a bunny Senpai asap.
    But what about the Dawn Father? Weren't you the one who recommended more deities because "I'm an Au Ra and I believe in the Dawn Father"? Changed your tune really quickly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
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    I agree. I'd like them to be their own race with their own lore, emotes, unique facial structures, and so on.
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