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    St0rmchild's Avatar
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    Aleutia Stormdancer
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    Why do you keep believing this is just a server issue ?

    I'm running on DF and it's just heartbreaking to see fully geared players; relics, raid kit and everything not even bothering to do game basics like move out of AoE or recognize a boss telegraphing.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Quote Originally Posted by St0rmchild View Post
    Why do you keep believing this is just a server issue ?

    I'm running on DF and it's just heartbreaking to see fully geared players; relics, raid kit and everything not even bothering to do game basics like move out of AoE or recognize a boss telegraphing.
    /facepalm had a friend in Phoenix who use to tell me similar stories...He came to Balmung...Not 100% fix but less complaining that is for sure. I'm not saying it's the server it self, IT IS THOSE WHO PLAY IN IT. Welcome to MMO Raids. It's heart breaking yes. People Troll all you can do is black list them, before exiting so you no longer party with them. Eventually you can weed them out...unless you black list hits max.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 03-17-2017 at 08:01 AM. Reason: addition

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    James Oakes
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    /facepalm had a friend in Phoenix who use to tell me similar stories...He came to Balmung...Not 100% fix but less complaining that is for sure. I'm not saying it's the server it self, IT IS THOSE WHO PLAY IN IT. Welcome to MMO Raids. It's heart breaking yes. People Troll all you can do is black list them, before exiting so you no longer party with them. Eventually you can weed them out...unless you black list hits max.
    Seems a little unfair to blame an entire server you don't even play on
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    Ayleen Estheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    /facepalm had a friend in Phoenix who use to tell me similar stories...He came to Balmung...Not 100% fix but less complaining that is for sure. I'm not saying it's the server it self, IT IS THOSE WHO PLAY IN IT. Welcome to MMO Raids. It's heart breaking yes. People Troll all you can do is black list them, before exiting so you no longer party with them. Eventually you can weed them out...unless you black list hits max.
    You don't queue with people from your server, but datacenter too. The server card is pointless here.
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    Chloe Grace
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    ..all you can do is black list them, before exiting so you no longer party with them.
    Black listing only blocks you from seeing them in chat, and party via PF. It does not prevent you from being matched again in DF (as much as I wished it did).
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by St0rmchild View Post
    Why do you keep believing this is just a server issue ?

    I'm running on DF and it's just heartbreaking to see fully geared players; relics, raid kit and everything not even bothering to do game basics like move out of AoE or recognize a boss telegraphing.
    Indeed. I suspect it's just as disheartening to the content designers of the 4-man instances to watch similar things there. I mean why bother designing mechanics when half the active population will ignore them after running the dungeon once or twice while gearing up?
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    Yona Lightbringer
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Indeed. I suspect it's just as disheartening to the content designers of the 4-man instances to watch similar things there. I mean why bother designing mechanics when half the active population will ignore them after running the dungeon once or twice while gearing up?
    Then maybe they should design content and mechanics that people CAN'T ignore and still complete the dungeon? If the mechanics doesn't really do anything, why even bother with doing them correctly, as you can just ignore them for the most part and still down the bosses without issue?
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonanja View Post
    Then maybe they should design content and mechanics that people CAN'T ignore and still complete the dungeon? If the mechanics doesn't really do anything, why even bother with doing them correctly, as you can just ignore them for the most part and still down the bosses without issue?
    Overgearing is the largest issue with content falling away. Ideally stricter level and ilvl sync would fix that, but players whine and complain if you do that. Just as they whine and complain that content is too easy - even though the ease is due to overgearing.
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Overgearing is the largest issue with content falling away. Ideally stricter level and ilvl sync would fix that, but players whine and complain if you do that. Just as they whine and complain that content is too easy - even though the ease is due to overgearing.
    Well you really have to argue what 95% of the playerbase would do. If they don't do raids on EX Primals then once they reach the gear level of the highest dungeon at the time it would be a direct halt on vertical progression (Our only progression).

    Simply making higher gear not work anymore doesn't seem like it'd be proper incentive for the bulk of players.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Well you really have to argue what 95% of the playerbase would do. If they don't do raids on EX Primals then once they reach the gear level of the highest dungeon at the time it would be a direct halt on vertical progression (Our only progression).

    Simply making higher gear not work anymore doesn't seem like it'd be proper incentive for the bulk of players.
    the only difference other than look with an i90 and an i270 gear set is numbers. That's all. ilvl sync doesn't change anything except the numbers. So if you're arguing that ilvl sync discourages players with i270 gear because their gear does "not work anymore" then you're really saying that those players won't run the content because they don't see big numbers when they hit things.

    I hope that the incentive to run things is other than what you suggest it is. It most certainly should be.
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