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    Galka are also called Roegadyn in this game and can come in female flavour (that was actually new and different). Will the 'Viera' (if they ever be a thing) still be called Viera? or something completely different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    This is a valid for concern for any new race that might be implemented in ffxiv. Hopefully they make viera similar to the concept art they drew.
    It is MORE of a concern for Viera. Any original race can be whatever it wants to be because it doesn't have any standards to live up to. People looked at Au ra and went "cool, the new race is lizard people with goku hair", if Viera isn't announced, half the people will go "yay viera!" and half the people will go "thats not what Viera is supposed to be", and as I have learnt, if there is anything where existing standards exist, not everyone will be happy (triple triad is a prime example). This applies to all existing races that they may want to implement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Galka are also called Roegadyn in this game and can come in female flavour (that was actually new and different). Will the 'Viera' (if they ever be a thing) still be called Viera? or something completely different?
    It's fine to be called something different or not. Mythra is miqo'te in FFXIV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    It is MORE of a concern for Viera. Any original race can be whatever it wants to be because it doesn't have any standards to live up to. People looked at Au ra and went "cool, the new race is lizard people with goku hair", if Viera isn't announced, half the people will go "yay viera!" and half the people will go "thats not what Viera is supposed to be", and as I have learnt, if there is anything where existing standards exist, not everyone will be happy (triple triad is a prime example). This applies to all existing races that they may want to implement.
    Taru lalafel, galka roegadyn, mythra miqo'te, hume hyur
    It worked before, you're acting like this is something new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    Taru lalafel, galka roegadyn, mythra miqo'te, hume hyur
    It worked before, you're acting like this is something new.
    Those races represent the MMO archetypes of final fantasy MMOs, you can be human, cat-person, elf, giant, or gnome. There is variety there, and they just used the same template for 1.0 as they did in XI (remember that these jobs were designed in 1.0 when the game was more of a sequel to XI), so the argument is different. Viera is literally taking an iconic race from final fantasy lore and implementing it into the game, its not an archetype, it is a reference.

    Mithra =/= miqote, mithra = animal-girl archetype = miqote
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CatGirl
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    Now you're just grasping at straws
    Here entertain yourself



    If I said the sun is yellow you would tell me it's white, red, and that some other things change its colors.
    It really doesn't matter what your expectations for viera are to me. The only difference between XII viera and XIV viera would be different feet. A calamity won't happen because of that. And that's the last time I'll repeat that since at this point there's no arguing against that. That would be the only major difference. Au ra had no creation of them before, they're the exception. Using au ra as an example can't be used ever again.
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    I would rather just have hybrids of current races, like Hyur/Kitties Lala/Kitties or something. Would make more sense then a sudden influx of rabbit people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    Now you're just grasping at straws
    Maybe I didn't explain myself well enough, but your reply really rubbed me the wrong way...

    I don't care if they implement viera, I don't care how they implement viera, but if they make a race that is only linked to viera by virtue of having rabbit ears then that is not viera, that is a unique race that has taken inspiration from Viera. When you have a thread that is titled "Viera as the new race", you are going to get people that want very different things, and stepping on the toes of something as iconic as Viera (read: the FFXI races aren't iconic, they are formulaic - i.e. elvaan = elf, mithra = cat-girl, hume = human, and even then, they are very different from races in XIV) will cause complaints from those who had a clear vision in their head of what "Viera" means to them, I'm just calling the community out before that happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihonnick View Post
    I would rather just have hybrids of current races, like Hyur/Kitties Lala/Kitties or something. Would make more sense then a sudden influx of rabbit people.
    If we're going the hybrid races route why not just give us all around better and more character customization options?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    This applies to all existing races that they may want to implement.
    That's what I said. I hope they do a good job. I can't pretend I know the limitations SE has when creating a new race, but we may have to compromise for normal human hands and feet. I am ok with this.
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    If they can only do human hands and feet, then why not nix the rabbit ears as well and just make them a third clan of Elezen? Would probably appeal to more people who want to play as an Elezen without an awkwardly long neck (maybe even push them out of the second most unpopular race spot, since elves tend to be the most played races in games, from what I've heard).
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