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  1. #21
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    ShinMetsu's Avatar
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    Tetsu Kaiten
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Miqo'tes are born with tail, there's no tradition involved here, they are not removed from the character creation screen either.
    If you can play a Highlander with Eyebrows, then i can play a Miqo'te without tail!! Stop trying to oppress me!!

    And if you think we have the budget to actually make Highlander Eyebrows, then you must be new around here! :')
    We probably don't even have the budget to cut off Miqo'te tails!!
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  2. #22
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    Medicine's Avatar
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    Tyurru Irisfield
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinMetsu View Post
    If you can play a Highlander with Eyebrows, then i can play a Miqo'te without tail!! Stop trying to oppress me!!

    And if you think we have the budget to actually make Highlander Eyebrows, then you must be new around here! :')
    We probably don't even have the budget to cut off Miqo'te tails!!
    But Miqo'tes without tails are just Midlander Hyurs. o.o
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  3. #23
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    Texa Yuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medicine View Post
    But Miqo'tes without tails are just Midlander Hyurs. o.o
    They could be like bobtail kitties

    It could be neat if we got like a Japanese Bobtail type of Miqo'te that had longer fur over their whole body and spots
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  4. #24
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Heavily disagree with this.
    You are confusing tradition with body changes, a roe cannot choose whether he is born short or tall, but a highlander is born with eyebrows and he chooses to shave them. Note that not all highlanders are born in Gyr Abania so those traditions make no sense.

    And for the other guy who still keeps intentionally missing the point, cutting off a cat's tail is pretty much the same as cutting off a leg, that's not comparable to shaving your eyebrows.
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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    You are confusing tradition with body changes, a roe cannot choose whether he is born short or tall, but a highlander is born with eyebrows and he chooses to shave them. Note that not all highlanders are born in Gyr Abania so those traditions make no sense.

    And for the other guy who still keeps intentionally missing the point, cutting off a cat's tail is pretty much the same as cutting off a leg, that's not comparable to shaving your eyebrows.
    It was merely meant to represent fringe outliers not being sufficient to add them to the character creation screen as to pull away from lore. Not necessarily for a 1:1 comparison. I didn't use tradition as an example because you already exclaimed your reasoning behind not believing tradition as being a blockage in character creation, which boiled down to "Tradition shouldn't be used in character creation", which is tough to argue with that seeing as it's not exactly tangible and purely opinion on both our parts.
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  6. #26
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Watching the ankle biter defend my right to stop shaving has made me reconsider my nickname, what honor they may have <3 ~ lol.

    (PS lalafells are really cute, I say it with love)

    I would really like to stop being forced to shave my eyebrows every four hours, unless SE is going to say our characters are not really ours but more like a Geralt or a Ciri (a character we watch, but are not "them", its not "our story") then I'm going to take it as a ElderScrolls sort of approach and I do not like that the only thing keeping me from stop shaving is some lore in an area I've never visited as far as I know. They messed up by giving the female's eyebrows imo, at least then they could say its biological ("they don't have them, at all") and it'd be much harder to argue against but it's just a traditional element. Personally a traditional argument is an incredibly flimsy one for many reasons (some personal to me, others to the game itself - like not being raised in an environment that even recognizes that tradition, adopted by Roegadyns for example).

    The male cat example struck me as a good one where SE just sort of blew it out of the water too, similar with Au Ra - never heard of, or massively rare, and all a sudden EVERYWHERE (as PCs, but still few NPC). If we go by lore there should be much less of those two races, but it's actually one of the major populations now so unless the lore is they breed like a parasite.. but adding a limitation on players because of that lore would be very meh. Forcing males to shave their eyebrows that they DO have, because of a traditional battle ritual that magically every male in the land must adhere to.. super... "really?"... lol. I figure its actually that they're hiding behind that reason because of character data, trying to not add new options to races.

    Although important to cultural history so I appreciate there is lore that exists for it but if all the other Hyur Highlanders that want to try and challenge the Warrior of Light to a duel over not shaving eyebrows.. be my guest.

    As far as my character is concerned he was raised by Chocobos, okay? lol, Smelly and furry - now stop disappointing my parents by making me shave!!! :P

    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Why is it that Highlanders don't have filed teeth? Actually, I'd love for highlanders to have filed teeth but I doubt that'll ever happen.
    O.o I never noticed that when I picked my character lol. Interesting point, a tidbit I didn't realize about highlander though. Not sure I want pointy teeth but can I trade them for more body hair (better beards and eyebrows)? I'll give you 32 filed teeth for the deal~! (But I get to use magic to get unfiled teeth back, no going toothless lol).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 03-16-2017 at 01:34 PM.

  7. #27
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    Einar Ulrik
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    (((2020!!!!))) LOL

    The lore/cultural thing people say.. It doesn't really work. It is implied that this practice of shaving eyebrows, and filing teeth to be sharp, are practices that are old- and not something all male highlanders do anymore. I could see male Highlanders doing that maybe in the old ancient parts of their homeland, if they want to keep that going.. But Highlander males living in Limsa, Gridania, Uldah? Probably not, highly probably not. Also the promotional artwork for the Valentione's day 2020, has a male Highlander with eyebrows lol.

    I can believe the limitation excuse somewhat, but now they no longer use PS3, and will probably in another 2-3 years transition to PS5.. Give the male Highlanders eyebrows, and not goofy ridiculous ones lol. They really need to add more options in character creation period. I don't honestly care to see a new race, just more options, one of them being eyebrows for male Highlanders.
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  8. #28
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Arise thread Arise mwhahahaha


    Honestly they should allow highlanders to have eyebrows again though whether they do it through CC or via tattoos, I'd prefer former as more options but latter is definitely lazier.
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