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    Ok. So you supprt me. Healing is easy. And you might as well dps to help the dungeon go faster. Coolio
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    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    Ok. So you supprt me. Healing is easy. And you might as well dps to help the dungeon go faster. Coolio
    ...I hate healers that DPS and wish SE would slap even bigger penalties for using Cleric, like a 20 second lockout or a hefty resource cost like Grit. How does this sound like I support the healer dps meta I want dead?
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  3. #513
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    ...I hate healers that DPS and wish SE would slap even bigger penalties for using Cleric, like a 20 second lockout or a hefty resource cost like Grit. How does this sound like I support the healer dps meta I want dead?
    You literally admitted that healing in this game, at a base level, is obnoxiously boring and braindead.
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  4. #514
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargentToughie View Post
    Apoc is also an incredible tool that
    I second this. In a12s, my groups blm uses Apoc on the tank that has the time add so they don't get hurt so bad.
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  5. #515
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargentToughie View Post
    You literally admitted that healing in this game, at a base level, is obnoxiously boring and braindead.
    Might want to reread the last few posts. I said DPSing as a healer is obnoxiously boring and braindead, and can be competently achieved by being semi AFK.
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  6. #516
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Might want to reread the last few posts. I said DPSing as a healer is obnoxiously boring and braindead, and can be competently achieved by being semi AFK.
    So why not do it??
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  7. #517
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Might want to reread the last few posts. I said DPSing as a healer is obnoxiously boring and braindead, and can be competently achieved by being semi AFK.
    If you're doing a rotation and optimally using GCDs accordingly, along with healing, you have plenty to do. The main issue I feel that is going over a lot of people's head is healing vs DPS. You do both, not just one. If you do just one, you are playing your class incorrectly.
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  8. #518
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    Sanura Tsukishiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Might want to reread the last few posts. I said DPSing as a healer is obnoxiously boring and braindead, and can be competently achieved by being semi AFK.
    Because just healing is less boring, less braindead, and requires more attention? I think we're playing different games.
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    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AriKitae View Post
    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
    #GetSelliBack2016

  9. #519
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    If you're doing a rotation and optimally using GCDs accordingly, along with healing, you have plenty to do. The main issue I feel that is going over a lot of people's head is healing vs DPS. You do both, not just one. If you do just one, you are playing your class incorrectly.
    The healer dps rotation is so simplified and basic that it's neither engaging or rewarding to pull off, and healing is frequently either an after thought or just not needed because the other healer is doing just fine. I fail to see how anyone can look at the healing design in this game and find it engaging. I feel it's even less complicated then 2.x PLD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zigabar View Post
    Because just healing is less boring, less braindead, and requires more attention? I think we're playing different games.
    Actually, the most fun I've had as a healer was when the main healer died and I suddenly had to spend the rest of the fight juggling sub 2k MP while both keeping the tank alive and keeping the party alive through the AoEs, while keeping SoS and Assize both on CD. It was actually engaging, which surprised me!
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 03-16-2017 at 05:08 AM.

  10. #520
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    The healer dps rotation is so simplified and basic that it's neither engaging or rewarding to pull off, and healing is frequently either an after thought or just not needed because the other healer is doing just fine. I fail to see how anyone can look at the healing design in this game and find it engaging.
    Regardless, this topic is not really about whether or not healing is engaging. The topic at hand is, if you only heal, thee is plenty of downtime where you do not do anything and there are people who stand around doing literally nothing during this downtime. This isn't about snowflake playstyles or being casual, it's about being lazy and using 2/3s of your kit.
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