It was not a question. It was salt.



It was not a question. It was salt.



If you dont like it then become a tank yourself. Problem solved. Then you dont have to worry about people leaving. And if people do leave you can just leave and get an instaqueue back into it.



He claims he is a tank, but for some reason wants to make his problem everyone else's. Because punishing players who want to play a tank role is a good idea. Especially if that role is not favored.
"Except I do tank. Do you really think that one person being a good tank is going to magically make people stop being selfish in an online game? Those same people wouldn't ever even see me tanking 'cause they'd just leave right away anyway."
Last edited by Reaperking386; 03-15-2017 at 01:16 PM.
I'll admit I've left AV before when phasing in..... I hate that place with a passion. I can do something else during the 30min lockout.




Almost every time I've seen a player willing to eat the 30 minute penalty, it is almost always a tank main. They have the luxury to do this due to their short queue times, and it is not fair to the other members of the group, especially the DPS who have the longest queue times. They are also the least likely to get kicked for poor behavior due to how long it takes to get a tank to join an in-progress PT.
That said, it's been so seldom that I have had this actually happen to me that I don't consider it a very big problem, and for the devs it is probably in the suggestions box on the other side of the room from the tower of 'list of priorities' that has each one they take care of, replaced by three more. It is frustrating, no doubt. But I would almost always have a tank leave the instance immediately if they are not into it. This normally results in a huge amount of time added to the run anyway that negates, or even adds overall time to get the clear you are looking for.
And that isn't the case in FFXIV. The group now gets into the queue behind everybody else to wait for a replacement tank.A: you underestimate the toxicity of the WoW playerbase and B: WoW had this thing where in progress groups got fill priority over new groups, so a new tank was always just seconds away if your group was already in the run.
This really was a crazy common tactic, especially during the cata/MoP days. Luckily the service kinda died with the cross realm group finder tool, you cant trade gold across servers.
Oooh, shiney...
Why would you report them for leaving? Who are you to force them to stay in a dungeon in a game they're paying to play without even knowing why they left? Scary thought process.
The only times I've left at the start is if I've noticed the group was going to be painful. I.e. undergeared people in AV without job stones for example.
Maybe people just change their mind, tanks are just easier to go through with it because they are gonna have an instant que after penalty.
The other day I was doing DR:Ex in Sohm Al, I was on DRG, we wiped at the last boss because healer and the other DPS weren't moving for leap and had the platform full of lava, and the other DPS sucked balls while at it, while I was missing positionals later on because I didn't have physical space to do them. I got mad at them in chat before we wiped and I got kicked by the tank because in his opinion we wiped because healer responded to me instead of healing... I got pretty mad, it was 3.20 am, I then proceded to argue with the tank over whispers. Then I qued again but with my tank que popped, I was still pissed off, I said "Actually, fuck this" in chat, left and went to sleep.



As someone who only plays DPS and heals I'll just leave at the start of a duty if it's something I hate too. Like the Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak. That dungeon can take a good 35+ minutes if there's sprouts in the party, the loot is worthless, and you can only use your most basic skills there. It's about as fun as a trip to the dmv.
Imo it's better for people to leave if it's a dungeon/trial they know they will hate instead of slogging through it at no personal benefit over and over again until they dread using roulettes at all. This is a video game it's supposed to be fun.



I don't think you can report someone for using a built in game mechanic that you don't like.
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