gamrTV Weekly - The Imminent Death of Final Fantasy XIV

[TheVedis]

his entire ffxiv is really just a plug for old republic
something tells me he was paid off to make that comment

[Cichy]

First of all, Old Republic is going may not do too hot. I think Bioware is overestimating the number of Star Wars fans, and most of all I'm hearing tons of negativity about the game.
I agree though that current 15$/per month isnt the best way to go. There are better ways to go about it.
I say either remain 15$ per month and all updates and expansions come with it.
Or
F2P with expansions being purchased in a box every year. They could charge small fees for having a mog house and small things but I dont like RMTing items like they did with Mog Expansions in XI.

[GreyWolf]

I feel like the whole "games review" industry (or whatever they call themselves) is really beating the whole "XIV is dead" horse a bit too much. Like really, sure when the game was launched it was less than sketchy and more or less deserved most of its poor ratings. But it's been a year now and the game has made leaps and bounds of improvements and while it won't really be finished being overhauled until 2.0, it seems like these reviewers are just taking jabs at the game while its down for the amusement of the internet. Being fair and accurate is one thing, but kicking something while its down with the same old story just makes you look like an ass after awhile.

The announcement about 2.0 should have been more than enough proof that the game won't "die". Even if everyone stopped playing as the reviewer claims (which couldn't be farther from the truth), the dev team would simply close down the servers and continue their work on 2.0 as they would regardless. With the new version coming down the pike SE has already budgeted out development for the new version just like it would for any other game that doesn't already have people playing it. Subscriptions merely lessen/negate the financial impact of keeping the servers active during development for another year.

First I'd agree, the game has come a long ways from where it started. It was pretty bad, but being less bad doesn't make it good :S I sure hope it gets much better. I don't want the game to die certainly not but many people will leave and from a business stand point, losing any customer is bad.

Second, a planned version 2.0 doesn't mean it's proof it'll happen... I think they're starting to charge because they actually do need funding for a project of this size. Large companies drop expensive projects all the time... take Duke Nukem Forever, it was dropped a few times but was finally released recently but was too late and out dated. Starcraft: Ghost was cancelled by blizzard after being on indefinite hold.

I wouldn't agree that the game will die, but he has some valid points. It's a shame people here can't take another's opinion. I really do have to say many a fanboys on this forum that deem anyone else's opinion that's not like their own as invalid. But most definitely the population will dwindle down quite a bit before climbing back up or dying. I have my doubts it'll be anywhere near the top as far as most popular mmo

[Jinko]

The game already died in a sense, its kind of come back from the dead a bit, its hard to say what impact the paid subscription will have although I'm guessing for the ones that have held on this long will n doubt stick around, I know I plan to.

Guess time will tell.

One thing is for sure if it had been any other company but SE making this game it would have died a long time ago.

2 primal fights
Hamlet defense battles
2 raid dungeons
Job system and related stuff
Content related to the gods
Battle with the empires general(?)
Action rehaul
Combo system
Expansion of armoury prior to 2.0
Personal estates?
Player search, semi-AH
The storyline unique to pre2.0

As I said before this isn't a great deal to look forward to over the next year, most of this stuff is coming in the next 3-4 months.

I just hope they have a good bit planned to keep people entertained.

[zaviermhigo]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH

Cause the same people who want to play FFXIV want to play a WoW clone with a Star Wars Skin, and such(i wanted swtor to be playble but bioware dialogue can't save a wow clone to me). The way he said "its been free to play for a year, and now they deciding to charge for it now" proved he was ignorant about the game and the time/money put in it. Also he said "the devs say this is what should of came out at release, so they're now charging for it", hahahahahahhahahahaha, they said "this is 50% of what we think this game should have, specifically talking about the standards of mmos.

I don't care if you hate on XIV, but hate on it while being informed.

My immature comment: he's ugly :/

[Malakhim]

...What I don't understand is why the critics make a big fuss out of it...

Because it generates website traffic. If a lot of "gaming journalism" websites could, they'd just slap pictures of naked women all over their sites for max monetization. Since they can't, they just stick to editorializing as much as they can in a negative light and as they say "if it bleeds it leads".

That being said, the FFXIV server population leading up to patch 1.20 seems to be increasing on Mysidia at least. Its anyone's guess as to how many people are going to remain once payments begin, but if my linkshell is indicative of anything(new players who just lurk the Lodestone forums), the game will probably be just fine. Besides, Square-Enix has to have taken a decrease in players post-1.20 into account for their financial figures, and yet they're still trucking along with the prep for 2.0.

[InuraBera]

No matter what, this project will continue, I think that much is obvious. Hopefully it will be worth the wait, but I'm happy to stay (and pay) in the meantime as I do have a good time with the game, even if I am a dirty casual! Saying that though, most of my money goes towards games, and I currently also have a DCUniverse sub and fully intend to also be playing the Old Republic.

I used to think it was a tough amount of money, but now that I'm working it's like...I can pay for *all* my MMOs in around three hours work on the first day of a month, and for what I get back out of them in terms of entertainment, I think it is completely worth it. Honestly, even if the game was perfect now, like the best game ever, they would lose customers as some folk just aren't willing to pay monthly for a game. Such is life, and it is their choice, even if I raise an eyebrow that they then happily drop down £50 a month or so for Sky Sports without complaint.

[Zenaku]

First of all, Old Republic is going may not do too hot. I think Bioware is overestimating the number of Star Wars fans, and most of all I'm hearing tons of negativity about the game.
I agree though that current 15$/per month isnt the best way to go. There are better ways to go about it.
I say either remain 15$ per month and all updates and expansions come with it.
Or
F2P with expansions being purchased in a box every year. They could charge small fees for having a mog house and small things but I dont like RMTing items like they did with Mog Expansions in XI.

if i remember the game is 12.99$ a month not if they change there minds about that.

Guess he forgetting how many strong ff fans there is in the world i agree ffxiv not going to have 10mil players but it going to have at least a strong 2-4mil at best by 1year time of 2.0

[Kiroh]

Yeah, this guy really doesn't know what he's talking about, for FFXIV or SWTOR.

Though he does bring up a valid point about people not wanting to pay for a product they've gotten for free for the last year, and about F2P MMOs changing up the face of the online gaming world.

Personally I think a better decision on SE's part would have been to implement a F2P model (with a cash shop to buy services/vanity item/etc) until 2.0 is released, at which point they would switch to the P2P model. This way people who want to support the project financially can do so, while still keeping interest among the players waiting for the game to be worth paying for high. Instead they're telling all the potential customers waiting for the game that should have been released last year to screw off until next year, or pay now for a game they don't feel is worth the monthly fee as it is.

[AdvancedWind]

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